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Message: [QUOTE="Pudge, post: 4064100, member: 364"] LOOK ... Utah is a major research university. A wonderful medical presence in the Rockies. What is Rutgers without Robert Wood Johnson? I am saying that the University of Utah has raised its stature to that level on a regional/national status. It belongs with the Pac 12 schools. It would never be at the bottom of the 12. Nor the B1G. Yes. Boise learned that California has a ton of football talent in its high schools; and the 4 P5 and then Fresno, San Jose State, San Diego State ... simply do not take all that good talent. There is definitely room for a 8th and 9th FBS in California. So Boise with its damn Blue field and consistently high level of HC and winning. Now, they go into Texas & Arizona & California easily. Play the transfer market well. JUCO. And they consistently rise. [/QUOTE]