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Message: [QUOTE="WestsideWaltz, post: 3026757, member: 3112"] Close had the #1 class and the most she got out of it was an Elite eight, the same as Kathy Olivier. She never won the Pac tournament, nor the conference with Canada and Billings. Trakh is in his second season and has already been judged more harshly than Close in her second season but the problem is no one is coming to see their games. As for the nucleus of players returning, that's just flat out wrong. They lost three of their five starters including their high scorer and rebounder. Even with that, they still split the crosstown series this season. UCLA's expectations are as a school. They are a chick sports school but their basketball program has always been second rate. The second highest number of championships does mean something as the mid season dismissal of Alford definitely suggests. If you want to compare male/female coaches, compare Rueck to Close or Trakh to his protege Jody Wynn, all of whom began at roughly the same time. [/QUOTE]