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[QUOTE="Rocktheworld, post: 2142037, member: 5037"] You got it Beyond Meat is good; honestly the best options are always in Whole Foods. Their curry seitan strips are pretty awesome. Gardein products are very solid as well; love their "pork." I am a highly Germanic young man who grew up in New Jersey eating the best pepperoni and sausage pizza on earth every week my entire childhood. I can't judge you for slipping, as I did myself several times. Meh, would it make you feel manly or something? Not judging if it does, but shooting a harmless deer from hundreds of yards away without it even knowing what happened, especially if you're going through all that for the justification of eating it, doesn't really appeal to me. But that's just me. This concept is one big reason I believe we are really herbivores by nature. A true carnivorous predator actively seeks out the injured, and/or diseased, and/or already dead and rotting. An omnivore? LOL it'll eat whatever it can get, however it comes. Humans? We are VERY particular with how we choose the produce we buy at the store. We value freshness and aesthetic. And you see that carry over with how we "prefer" meat. Not to mention the fact that we have to cook it to tolerate it, let alone use dried vegetables to season and enjoy it, our preferences are completely at odds with natural meat-eaters. Preach on to me, brother. Or if you want to PM that's cool too. We are dissenters here :eek: Personally, I don't find it very complex. P1 Animals are sentient P2 Animals feel suffering P3 It is immoral to inflict superfluous suffering on sentient beings C1 It is immoral to consume animals, or treat them the way in which the modern egg and dairy industry exploits them for their byproducts [/QUOTE]
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