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Message: [QUOTE="GemParty, post: 4876641, member: 518"] I guess it all depends where you place value. If you poll the current NBA, my feel is 80% or more would say Kobe is top 5. To miss the top 10, I would find shocking, for me personally. Most believe, including me, he’s the closest thing skill/game wise to MJ. Rings to back it up. So if you feel MJ is top2, you can’t ignore his direct comp. Right? I think I heard Shaq say he’s the 4th best Center ever. Now my top 10, can’t be all Centers. Other positions have changed the game. Maybe Shaq for Duncan is reasonable. Q- how much better is Brady vs Marino as a football player? 6x better? Rings matter. Bill Russell & Wilt changed the Center position and played one another. If you asked Wilt, to rank Bill, where do you honestly think he would place him? Food for thought. That’s why this is one of the greatest sports topics ever for debate, and there’s no correct answer. [/QUOTE]