Current Unknowns, please speculate

[OkaForPrez]

With 5 mandated ND <> ACC games, can a 15 team football conference work scheduling wise?

Is the $50 million dollar buyout effective immediately? If not, what is the window for the ACC FB schools to bolt?

If the buyout is effective immediately, does this shift the leverage to tobacco road? Under this new leverage shift, can Uconn get 16?

 

[SubbaBub]

There isn't a 15 team league. ND is not a football member, the agreement is for 5 OOC games per year. Each ACC team will play 6 division games and 3 non division games, plus 3 OOC. For 5 teams, ND will be one of the OOC's

In BB they will have 3 pods of five. H/A against your pod, 8 games plus one game against every one else, 10 games. You can bet the pods will be regional to appease the carolina schools. ND will pod with Pitt, Cuse, BC, and VT.

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[Carl Spackler]

No - the quesiton about scheduling is two fold:

#1. How many ACC programs are already on the ND future schedule per year?

#2. Do those games count toward the 5 per year?


My guess is that there's a lot of spin on what's happened today, and the top isn't going to spin long.

Notre Dame just made a football independance self preservation move, history does indeed repeat itself. Swofford adn Swarbrick and the ACC are simply repeating exactly what Tranghese, Rosenthal and the Big East did in 1994.

The funny thing, and the difference then, was that the Big East, was completely vocal about the move being basketball related, and not football for the conference, and that Notre Dame was very happy with their new football arrangement - which was entirely one sided for them.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Look - can it be more clear yet, that ESPN wants the Big East basketball conference to die?

 

[Dann]

Look - can it be more clear yet, that ESPN wants the Big East basketball conference to die?

its the opposite carl, they want the fball conf to die. they would love for the bball schools to split right now and combine with some a10/bulter type schools and form a 16 team bball league. then espn could give that league 2 or 3 mil a team and everyone is happy. those schools get good $, they stay relevant at the bball table ncaa wise and espn gets programing in the winter on off days and filler times around the big boys.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Look - can it be more clear yet, that ESPN wants the Big East basketball conference to die?

That isn't exactly correct. ESPN wants the Big East football conference to die. Big East basketball is just an unintended casualty at this point. The ESPN still wants the BE basketball conference (albeit at a bargain price).

 

[FfldCntyFan]

With 5 mandated ND <> ACC games, can a 15 team football conference work scheduling wise?
It will be a 14 member football conference. ND's games against ACC members will be to help television value for ACC home games and will be ND's cost of remaining indy.

Is the $50 million dollar buyout effective immediately? If not, what is the window for the ACC FB schools to bolt?
Normally I would imagine that the increase would be effective as of some future date (ND's joining for example) but considering the landscape (and that the B-12 or SEC may see a limited window and attempt to strike) in this case my guess would be effective immediately.

If the buyout is effective immediately, does this shift the leverage to tobacco road? Under this new leverage shift, can Uconn get 16?
My best guess is that if the day arrives where ND joins for football we will be the odds on favorite. Unfortunately, this is like the high school geek who does the hot girl's homework and is constantly promised that once she is out of her current relationship he can be her boyfriend yet she always has a new boyfriend before she tells him the last relationship ended. We'll be waiting at home every Saturday night while she's screwing some jock in the backseat of his car. Perhaps when you meet her at the 40th reunion and she's a bit too worn for the wear we'll finally get our shot.

Speculation, as the title requested.

 

[Carl Spackler]

its the opposite carl, they want the fball conf to die. they would love for the bball schools to split right now and combine with some a10/bulter type schools and form a 16 team bball league. then espn could give that league 2 or 3 mil a team and everyone is happy. those schools get good $, they stay relevant at the bball table ncaa wise and espn gets programing in the winter on off days and filler times around the big boys.

I disagree, what's at stake, is the weeknight live sports college basketball programming all winter long, in the largest media markets in teh country. If the big east basketball conference dies, ESPN is poised to buy up all the most valueable real estate at dirt cheap prices, while the blood is still running on the ground.

Killing off big east football, wouldn't accomplish the task.

 

[Dann]

You lost me on that carl.

 

[Carl Spackler]

You lost me on that carl.

It's ok, things will be a lot more clear in a few weeks for everybody. I think ESPN, is doing everything they possibly can, to make it seem like the Big East is holding a pair of deuces at the table, before they go all in - at which time, we will inevitably call the bluff and see what everybody else at the table is holding.

 

[Pudge]

$50m buyout>?

We have seen this litigated. BC & the BE. They say it is effective immediately; but, I am willing there is wiggle room until there is no wiggle room. (ie. DEFINITIVE OPERATING AGREEMENT - Contractual)

 

[observer]

Good summary of the ACC-ND deal:

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/football_ncaa/Notre-Dame-to-ACC-in-all-sports-but-football_42570102

Increased withdrawal fee is effective immediately.

There is 'no need' for a 16th member.

The TV deal with ESPN and the ACC will be renegotiated to account for the additional value of the ND in the conference which will increase the ACC's per team revenues yet again.

 

[uconndogs]

Small person observer. Go create value somewhere. Make your life better. Make someone else's life better. There's happiness and reward in that.

This..........just small and narrow people stuff.

Have a good life my friend.

 

[sportsart]

Is it at all possible ESPN is trying to minimize the NBC sports network by weakening the Big East AND preparing to offer ND a price they can't refuse whenever their NBC contract is up?

That leaves NBC with didley squat.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Close Sportsart.

This move killed any chance of NBC building something that at some point could compete with ESPN as a relevant 24/7/365 Sports channel. One stray BCS school (even if it is ND) on NBC is no more of a threat than the deal the SEC has with CBS. An entire conference's athletic slate as filler for a fledgling sports channel (I remember indoor soccer on ESPN 30 years ago) could play a huge role in allowing a major network to build something that can become very large down the road.