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Message: [QUOTE="yukonfan4, post: 2980516, member: 9448"] we depend on those non-top 30 freshmen exceptions: boatright- #55 shabazz- #82 jeremy lamb- #86 brimah- #241 giffey- unranked all these guys played big roles their first year. i chalk that up to good recruiting beyond the ranking lists and great coaching. i'm not arguing about the stats you cite- i can't- i'm just saying we've had more success than the average program in getting the most out of guys early on. hopefully hurley can continue that practice [/QUOTE]