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from team rankings, UCONN 61, SMU 26, Tulsa 32, Cincy 33, Temple 35. Note Stanford is 45.
 
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Lots of chances to knock these teams off coming up inclusing Tulsa and Stanford this week.
 
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According to RealTime RPI:

Temple 18
SMU 33
Cincy 40
Tulsa 56
59 UCONN

Stanford 41

The problem is: USF, Houston UCF and ECU all between 212 and 281. :(
 

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Kenpom AdjD up to 14!!! 29th overall, offense is in the 80's but I suspect that's improved over the last three games.
 
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That's an absurdly low RPI, but if we keep winning, it will shoot up, and we'll be fine.

But we can't lose more than 1-2 games and feel comfortable without winning the American. It's looking like a 3-4 bid league on paper, but it will probably be a 3 bid league at best if we use last year's committee as a benchmark.
 
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ESPN has us as 63rd (jumped up 11 over night)
Our wins- Dayton 16, Cincy 39, Florida 72(was in the 100s a few days ago)

SMU 25
Tulsa 32
Temple 38
 
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Will our injuries be played up? I mean we heard about Florida's injuries the entire season when we beat them last year.

No Boatright in OT loss to Temple. No Calhoun, our best outside shooter, in the other 4 losses. Purvis and Boatright banged up in those losses as well.
 
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Will our injuries be played up? I mean we heard about Florida's injuries the entire season when we beat them last year.

No Boatright in OT loss to Temple. No Calhoun, our best outside shooter, in the other 4 losses. Purvis and Boatright banged up in those losses as well.
Well, he's averaging 10ppg and is 8/18 (44%) from 3 in the last 5 games. He keeps that up, and he may end up our second leading scorer...enough to make it clear it was a big deal he was gone. Selection committee would have to take that seriously, even if they ignored the injuries to Purvis and Boatright.
 
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Got to stop playing games against teams like Central with an RPI of 344 and Coppin St. at 307. With having multiple teams in the AAC with RPIs in the 250 range, need to schedule teams in the 100-150 range instead of terrible teams in the 300's.
 
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Well, he's averaging 10ppg and is 8/18 (44%) from 3 in the last 5 games. He keeps that up, and he may end up our second leading scorer...enough to make it clear it was a big deal he was gone. Selection committee would have to take that seriously, even if they ignored the injuries to Purvis and Boatright.

It certainly has turned out that Calhoun was a huge loss. Best outside shooter on a team that lacks it. It's great for him personally that he's having this resurgence and great for us because not having him in 4 losses will be magnified. And the other loss we didn't have Boatright. And 3 of the losses were as razor tight as they come.

As rough as this team looks at times, it's kinda amazing what their record could be had they been healthy. The Yale, Texas, and Temple games would be wins. And the 10 point losses to ranked WVU and Duke would be even closer and perhaps....
 
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Got to stop playing games against teams like Central with an RPI of 344 and Coppin St. at 307. With having multiple teams in the AAC with RPIs in the 250 range, need to schedule teams in the 100-150 range instead of terrible teams in the 300's.
Cool. All you have to do is figure out a year or two in advance which teams will have RPI's in the 100-150 range and send that list to the athletic dept. I'm sure they'll take it from there.
 
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Obviously the NCAA selection committee looks at RPI but to me the BPI (basketball power index) that ESPN puts out is very very credible. (Or maybe I'm just biased bc UConn is the highest ranked team from the American in these rankings).
UConn - 36
SMU - 37
Cincy - 38
Temple - 87
Memphis - 103
Tulsa - 114

I never really have been a fan of RPI. Tulsa is 2-3 vs RPI top 100. We're 3-5 with 2 losses coming on buzzer beaters and another in which our best player was out for the second half and OT yet Tulsa's RPI is 32 and we are 63 according to ESPN.
 
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Tulsa's RPI would be a lot worse if their loss to Division II SE Oklahoma State counted. Let's all be thankful it doesn't.

I never really have been a fan of RPI. Tulsa is 2-3 vs RPI top 100. We're 3-5 with 2 losses coming on buzzer beaters and another in which our best player was out for the second half and OT yet Tulsa's RPI is 32 and we are 63 according to ESPN.
 
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Tulsa's RPI would be a lot worse if their loss to Division II SE Oklahoma State counted. Let's all be thankful it doesn't.

Makes sense. BPI of ESPN counts that loss, and like I said BPI has Tulsa at 114.
 
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I tend to like KenPom, even if we didn't finish #1 in any year we won the title. You can use KenPom and pretty accurately eliminate teams not in the Top 20 Defensive Efficiency from title contention. It is a strong and effective tool.

27 SMU
29 UConn
33 Cincinnati
61 Temple
64 Temple
97 Memphis
139 Tulane
215 USF
235 Houston
246 UCF
252 East Carolina
 
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Obviously the NCAA selection committee looks at RPI but to me the BPI (basketball power index) that ESPN puts out is very very credible. (Or maybe I'm just biased bc UConn is the highest ranked team from the American in these rankings).
UConn - 36
SMU - 37
Cincy - 38
Temple - 87
Memphis - 103
Tulsa - 114

I never really have been a fan of RPI. Tulsa is 2-3 vs RPI top 100. We're 3-5 with 2 losses coming on buzzer beaters and another in which our best player was out for the second half and OT yet Tulsa's RPI is 32 and we are 63 according to ESPN.
BPI is a much better tool than the RPI. RPI is literally the worst "advanced" metric tool to measure basketball teams.
 
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I prefer the RPI. Is a strict formula based on who you beat, and who your opponents beat. Simple and clear. You want to make it to the NCAA? Then beat a lot of teams that will beat a lot of teams. Simple as that

Is the only unbiased way to choose teams... based on Win and Loses. Any other way you are adding weight to home/away loses, D/O efficiency, and a bunch other metrics that at the end of the day still WONT choose the best 50+ at-large teams

the bad thing about the RPI is that only credible late in the season
 
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I don't see how efficiency isn't an unbiased metric. You are just zooming in from the "win" level to the "points" level. You need more points than another team to win, so you're taking the same info but at a higher "resolution."
 
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I tend to like KenPom, even if we didn't finish #1 in any year we won the title. You can use KenPom and pretty accurately eliminate teams not in the Top 20 Defensive Efficiency from title contention. It is a strong and effective tool.

With that it should be stated that UConn is 13th in defensive efficiency (90th in off. .) according to KenPom. I also really like KenPom and his metrics.
 
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I prefer the RPI. Is a strict formula based on who you beat, and who your opponents beat. Simple and clear. You want to make it to the NCAA? Then beat a lot of teams that will beat a lot of teams. Simple as that

Is the only unbiased way to choose teams... based on Win and Loses. Any other way you are adding weight to home/away loses, D/O efficiency, and a bunch other metrics that at the end of the day still WONT choose the best 50+ at-large teams

the bad thing about the RPI is that only credible late in the season
Well, first, RPI does take into consideration home/away losses.

Second, playing a team ranked 200 is roughly the same as playing a team ranked 350, yet the RPI treats them as vastly different.

Third, BPI takes into consideration who was playing games, and RPI doesn't. Teams shouldn't be overly penalized when key players were hurt.

Fourth,

Fifth, RPI does not take into consideration how you play teams. Was it a close game? Was it a blow-out?

Sixth, when you look at the RPI, you see a number of teams in the Top 25, or Top 100 that don't belong there by any reasonable POV. Is Colorado State really a Top 20 team? Is Wofford a Top 50 team? Is Is Notre Dame the 50th best team? It defies reason. Look at BPI or KenPom, and those rankings more closely match your eyes.
 
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RPI is without a doubt the worst metric out there, but the selection committee uses it for some reason, so it is important.
 
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Well, first, RPI does take into consideration home/away losses.

Second, playing a team ranked 200 is roughly the same as playing a team ranked 350, yet the RPI treats them as vastly different.

Third, BPI takes into consideration who was playing games, and RPI doesn't. Teams shouldn't be overly penalized when key players were hurt.

Fourth,

Fifth, RPI does not take into consideration how you play teams. Was it a close game? Was it a blow-out?

Sixth, when you look at the RPI, you see a number of teams in the Top 25, or Top 100 that don't belong there by any reasonable POV. Is Colorado State really a Top 20 team? Is Wofford a Top 50 team? Is Is Notre Dame the 50th best team? It defies reason. Look at BPI or KenPom, and those rankings more closely match your eyes.
While there are merits to both sides of the argument, I believe it is safe to say no one would disagree with your fourth point.
 
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With that it should be stated that UConn is 13th in defensive efficiency (90th in off. .) according to KenPom. I also really like KenPom and his metrics.
All champions but 2009 UNC finished in the Top 20 Adj. D (21)...but they had the top offense.
All champions but 2014 UConn finished in the Top 20 Adj. O (38)...but they had Shabazz Napier.

Year Team Adj. O Adj. D Overall
2002 Maryland 2 7 2
2003 Syracuse 14 14 5
2004 Uconn 9 5 2
2005 UNC 2 12 2
2006 Florida 3 6 1
2007 Florida 1 17 1
2008 Kansas 2 1 1
2009 UNC 1 21 1
2010 Duke 1 1 8
2011 Uconn 18 13 9
2012 UK 2 8 1
2013 Louisville 4 3 1
2014 Uconn 39 10 8
 
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