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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 3127961, member: 7492"] Well, for setting the record straight, in 1998 #1 seed Stanford lost to #16 seed Harvard, so that is a big “oops” right there. To keep Tara as #3 is logical if people feel that way, but to say Kim or MM have underachieved and not say Tara has underachieved also is gerrymandering. All 3 have underachieved at times. Kim has 3 titles to 2 each for the others. Tara does have many FF appearances and gets great recruits at a tough academic school so I think she’s a top coach. I just caution people from putting coaches down as underachieving when they regularly get into the tournament, get to Elite 8’s or FF’s and lose. At that point it is the top teams in the country and anything can happen. Getting there regularly is impressive. For those who extoll Graves as a top 10 Coach, I offer a few comments- almost all of the coaches on this list had success at mid-majors before their current school and have a longer track record at their current school. 2. If you want to add, who do you want to remove. Please note I am not saying he’s not deserving, I just am curious who gets removed. All in all, I like the dialogue on this thread and I have gained some perspective on these coaches I didn’t have before. Thanks everyone! :) [/QUOTE]