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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 4465905, member: 153"] I was actually quoting what people FROM these states told me. I've never been to Missouri other than the St. Louis airport, and I've not been to many places in Oklahoma outside of the one week I spent in Stillwater and Tulsa. The people I know are from Springfield, MO, where they told me they identify as southern. I've also never been to the Plains states, any of them. I just know that midwesterners always draw a distinction, and it mostly has to do with farmers versus industrial workers. So sure, an Indiana wheat farmer has much more in common with a Nebraska corn farmer than either of them do with a typical Midwestern industrial worker. But in the MW, you have a huge number of blue collar workers or ex blue collar families. This is why the politics are so different from the Plains states. [/QUOTE]