Create the ideal 12 team bball conference without using Big 10/SEC/Big 12/ACC schools

[Jaydumo20]

Not saying this is a possibility at all but itd be interesting to see what kind of league could be built based on program quality, fan base, recruiting etc.
Without using big 4 conference teams to make it more challenging.

12 teams.

 

[superjohn]

The Big East plus Gonzaga. That was easy.

 

[storrsroars]

The Big East plus Gonzaga. That was easy.

Not gonna replace DePaul with St. Mary's?

 

[SeaDr]

Uconn
Gonzaga
Marquette
Creighton
Xavier
San Diego St.
Utah st.
New mexico
St. Mary’s
Dayton
vCU
Villanova (perennially)

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Not gonna replace DePaul with St. Mary's?

I'm thinking at least three or four current BE schools won't make the cut of top 12 non P-4.

 

[bendm]

In other words, which midmajor should the BE add? Gonzaga is joining the PAC. We need join the big12.

 

[Jaydumo20]

San Diego state played us in the title game 2 years ago, Seton hall and Providence aren't going to any title games.

 

[bendm]

San Diego state played us in the title game 2 years ago, Seton hall and Providence aren't going to any title games.

They have football and are joining the PAC . They’re gonna get more tv revenue than the BE it makes no sense for them.

 

[djct1999]

This isn’t ideal and not worth our time.

 

[champs99and04]

UConn, PC, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, Temple, DePaul, Butler, Marquette, Creighton, Dayton, VCU

 

[Jaydumo20]

They have football and are joining the PAC . They’re gonna get more tv revenue than the BE it makes no sense for them.

I wonder if we could be like them and just claim to be a football school.

 

[champs99and04]

UConn, PC, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, Temple, DePaul, Butler, Marquette, Creighton, Dayton, VCU

I wrote Temple instead of Georgetown for some reason. I could be talked into Saint Louis, Wichita State, and Memphis as well. Butler and DePaul are expendable IMO.

 

[bendm]

UConn, PC, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova, Temple, DePaul, Butler, Marquette, Creighton, Dayton, VCU

lol Gtown is still one of the biggest brands in the league and you wanna replace them with temple?

 

[navery12]

UConn
Villanova
St John's
Georgetown
Memphis
VCU

Gonzaga
Creighton
Xavier
Marquette
San Diego State
St Mary's

HM: Colorado State, Dayton, Drake, Utah State, Boise State, New Mexico

I also have zero interest in ever seeing something like this come together

 

[Windham4th]

Uconn vs Hawaii would be an epic rivalry

 

[Jaydumo20]

I wrote Temple instead of Georgetown for some reason. I could be talked into Saint Louis, Wichita State, and Memphis as well. Butler and DePaul are expendable IMO.

Wichita State wouldbve been a lock 15 years ago. It seems so strange now to think of how good they were.
And I hear St.Louis sometimes as a team that could jump to a bigger conference- good history but just finished something like 5th in the A10 and rarely make the tourney. I am confused about the st. Louis love

 

[willie99]

The Debbie Downers are out in force, another thread with an opportunity to show how unhappy they are. Like we don't know already, LOL

I think it's interesting topic, and sticking to the guidelines rather than creating more silly reasons to complain

Uconn
Creighton
Marquette
St John's
Gonzaga
St Mary's
SD St
Memphis
Dayton
VCU
X
Nova


I don’t think New Mexico stands the time test. Georgetown hasn't been good for a long time.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Uconn
Gonzaga
Marquette
Creighton
Xavier
San Diego St.
Utah st.
New mexico
St. Mary’s
Dayton
vCU
Villanova (perennially)

Too Western-centric maybe take out New Mexico and add St Johns

 

[djct1999]

I see you erased your first post. Why did @temery allow us to start deleting old posts?

I erased it because it included big 12/acc/big 10 schools and then realized you asked specifically not to include them. That’s when I realized what a waste of time this is, even hypothetically.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

UConn
St. John's
Providence
Villanova
Seton Hall
Georgetown
Creighton
Marquette
Xavier
___________
Yale - Quietly have earned NCAA Tourney bids in five of the last seven seasons
VCU - love that program, amazing fan base, fits region
Dayton - Ditto to VCU, replaces DePaul and Butler

 

[REB1094]

Start with the Big East and give the boot to DePaul, Butler, and Seton Hall. Those are easy

Providence is nice for the regional aspect but they probably get cut too. Georgetown has been trash for a while but there’s history there so I’d keep them. So I have 5 open spots.

If I don’t care about regions - Gonzaga, SDSU, Dayton, Drake, and Memphis

If I do care about regions (loosely, since regional conferences are a thing of the past) - swap Gonzaga and SDSU with VCU and Yale. Keep Memphis and Drake since they are roughly the same distance as Creighton and Marquette

If I can’t have Memphis and Drake because they’re too far, give me…George Mason? And UNCW?

 

[Lynyrd]

Fun exercise for rainy day …

UCONN
Villanova
St. Johns
Georgetown
Marquette
Memphis
Xavier
Gonzaga
San Diego State
Dayton
VCU
St. Bonaventure*

* Should always take a flyer, love the Bonnies

 

[Jaydumo20]

Start with the Big East and give the boot to DePaul, Butler, and Seton Hall. Those are easy

Providence is nice for the regional aspect but they probably get cut too. Georgetown has been trash for a while but there’s history there so I’d keep them. So I have 5 open spots.

If I don’t care about regions - Gonzaga, SDSU, Dayton, Drake, and Memphis

If I do care about regions (loosely, since regional conferences are a thing of the past) - swap Gonzaga and SDSU with VCU and Yale. Keep Memphis and Drake since they are roughly the same distance as Creighton and Marquette

If I can’t have Memphis and Drake because they’re too far, give me…George Mason? And UNCW?

I care about region as well. We've lost that dimension and it has made things less compelling. Each conference was fiercely loyal to their region and I don't care how good marquette and Creighton are, you will never have as natural a rival as syracuse, pc, st johns etc.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

For how bad DePaul has been historically, I am curious how Chris Holtmann's squad will look in Y2.

14-20 last season with a makeshift roster of transfers. Next year, they return not only their leading scorer CJ Gunn, but also NJ Benson and Layden Blocker, two starters who ranked 3rd and 4th in scoring while all three ranked within the top-four in the team's defensive metrics rates per EvanMiya.

Their transfer haul is already four deep w/ Kaleb Banks (15p, 7r, 1.3b at Tulane; career 33.3 3P%) penciled in to start at the 4 and RJ Smith (6p, 1.7a, 39 3P% at Colorado) penciled in to start at the 2. Their other two transfers look like they can be versatile bench pieces while the headliner of their '25 class is 7'1 Isaiah Medina, their first top-100 HS commit in three years.

Overall, for how much of a doormat they've been, I'm impressed that the roster is already 11 deep. Their frontcourt rotation already looks set, just need to flesh out the backcourt, especially needing another PG.

 

[uconnblueinky]

UConn Syracuse Villanova Georgetown Louisville Gonzaga Seton Hall Creighton
Duke Gonzaga St John's Marquette

 

[Colin G]

Big east going pro/rel route with A10

 

[AdamaNation]

Uconn
Gonzaga
Marquette
Creighton
Xavier
San Diego St.
Utah st.
New mexico
St. Mary’s
Dayton
vCU
Villanova (perennially)

Temple? Some history and would be good for Philly and Nova

I’ve pleaded to get VCU for years!!!