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Alex has won back to back titles before missing back to back free throws.

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A handful of college basketball players have won back-to-back championships. Nearly all college players miss back-to-back free throws at one time or another. How many players have done the first before ever doing the second, as Alex Karaban did? Has to be a very exclusive club.
 
NJHusky said:
Alex has won back to back titles before missing back to back free throws.

From Amore:

A handful of college basketball players have won back-to-back championships. Nearly all college players miss back-to-back free throws at one time or another. How many players have done the first before ever doing the second, as Alex Karaban did? Has to be a very exclusive club.
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You could look at pretty much anything Alex has done this year and say "how many players have done this after winning back-to-back national championship." The list is going to be small... for obvious reasons. To be honest, this is kind of a stupid "factoid."
 
husky429 said:
You could look at pretty much anything Alex has done this year and say "how many players have done this after winning back-to-back national championship." The list is going to be small... for obvious reasons. To be honest, this is kind of a stupid "factoid."
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I think you’re looking at the wrong way. It’s not what did he do after winning 2x, it’s that he hasn’t missed back to back Ft in 2.5 years while winning B2B
 
NJHusky said:
Alex has won back to back titles before missing back to back free throws.

From Amore:

A handful of college basketball players have won back-to-back championships. Nearly all college players miss back-to-back free throws at one time or another. How many players have done the first before ever doing the second, as Alex Karaban did? Has to be a very exclusive club.
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I have to admit though that is a pretty interesting factoid....
 
Get a Job said:
Has he never missed consecutive free throw attempts, or has he never missed both shots on a two-shot opportunity? If it's the former, this is an even more impressive oddity.
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Ask Dom
 
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The 2 missed free throws are going to be on every UConn game broadcast the rest of the year. Sickening. It’s done, fuggetaboutit.
 
husky429 said:
You could look at pretty much anything Alex has done this year and say "how many players have done this after winning back-to-back national championship." The list is going to be small... for obvious reasons. To be honest, this is kind of a stupid "factoid."
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The takeaway is he choked. We all already know that, we watched the game.

I don't think we need all these articles, Hurley talking about his rings, fans defending his honor on social media. We all know he won two rings back to back...so did Hass, Samson, Donovan, and Tristen.

We all know he's a great player, he just choked at the line at the end of a regular season game in early January. It's not a big deal.
 
husky429 said:
You could look at pretty much anything Alex has done this year and say "how many players have done this after winning back-to-back national championship." The list is going to be small... for obvious reasons. To be honest, this is kind of a stupid "factoid."
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why so serious GIF
 
NJHusky said:
Alex has won back to back titles before missing back to back free throws.

From Amore:

A handful of college basketball players have won back-to-back championships. Nearly all college players miss back-to-back free throws at one time or another. How many players have done the first before ever doing the second, as Alex Karaban did? Has to be a very exclusive club.
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I, like many, wish he didn't add that to his resume. If he hit both our winning streak continues. Hits 1 of 2 maybe the same holds true. With that said, time to turn the page. I care very little to relive that memory, as I'm sure Alex feels the same.
 
husky429 said:
You could look at pretty much anything Alex has done this year and say "how many players have done this after winning back-to-back national championship." The list is going to be small... for obvious reasons. To be honest, this is kind of a stupid "factoid."
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By their nature all factoids are stupid or quirky.
 
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I thought a factoid was a misconception.

I think this is more of a tidbit.
 
superjohn said:
The takeaway is he choked. We all already know that, we watched the game.

I don't think we need all these articles, Hurley talking about his rings, fans defending his honor on social media. We all know he won two rings back to back...so did Hass, Samson, Donovan, and Tristen.

We all know he's a great player, he just choked at the line at the end of a regular season game in early January. It's not a big deal.
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I don't like the simplistic use of the term of "choke." That term implies that someone allowed emotions to overwhelm them into making a physical and/or mental error. It connotes psychological weakness or someone who can't be trusted when the lights are on or the game is on the line.

No one has any idea what was going through AK's mind at the time. He had just played 36 minutes so his mind/body coordination might have been just a tad off which would be enough. Let's not judge his character. His body is not a robot.
 
dennismenace said:
I don't like the simplistic use of the term of "choke." That term implies that someone allowed emotions to overwhelm them into making a physical and/or mental error. It connotes psychological weakness or someone who can't be trusted when the lights are on or the game is on the line.

No one has any idea what was going through AK's mind at the time. He had just played 36 minutes so his mind/body coordination might have been just a tad off which would be enough. Let's not judge his character. His body is not a robot.
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It has nothing to do with his character. He's a great ft shooter who had never missed 2 ft's in a row at UConn and he wasn't even close on his 2 ft's to win the game. That's a choke, it's not a big deal.
 
superjohn said:
The takeaway is he choked. We all already know that, we watched the game.

I don't think we need all these articles, Hurley talking about his rings, fans defending his honor on social media. We all know he won two rings back to back...so did Hass, Samson, Donovan, and Tristen.

We all know he's a great player, he just choked at the line at the end of a regular season game in early January. It's not a big deal.
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Choked? I for one don’t equate missing 2 free throws with choking.
 
LIUCHusky said:
Choked? I for one don’t equate missing 2 free throws with choking.
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Missing 2 FTs? No.

Missing 2 FTs in that scenario? Absolutely.

Why is it so bad to say he choked in a big spot? Apparently he shot FTs when he got back to the gym that night. Maybe because of it this never happens again. But in that one moment, he choked and he’d be the first to admit that.
 
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We didn’t lose that game because he missed both the free throws. We lost the game because of what happened for the 39+ minutes before that.
 
superjohn said:
The takeaway is he choked. We all already know that, we watched the game.

I don't think we need all these articles, Hurley talking about his rings, fans defending his honor on social media. We all know he won two rings back to back...so did Hass, Samson, Donovan, and Tristen.

We all know he's a great player, he just choked at the line at the end of a regular season game in early January. It's not a big deal.
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I am not a big fan of using the word “choked” for something that, as a matter of statistics, has to happen occasionally if the sample size is large enough. If you assume that the chances of success on your second free throw don’t go up because you miss the first, an 80% FT shooter is going to miss both once every 25 appearances to the line for a pair. That it didn’t happen to Alex in 2 plus years is amazing. To use the term “choked,” absent it happening in a truly critical situation (see, e.g., Marshall, Donyell), just strikes me as unfair.

But to each their own.
 
Deepster said:
Missing 2 FTs? No.

Missing 2 FTs in that scenario? Absolutely.

Why is it so bad to say he choked in a big spot? Apparently he shot FTs when he got back to the gym that night. Maybe because of it this never happens again. But in that one moment, he choked and he’d be the first to admit that.
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There is a difference between choking and failing. Are you saying the moment was too big for Alex?
 
businesslawyer said:
I am not a big fan of using the word “choked” for something that, as a matter of statistics, has to happen occasionally if the sample size is large enough. If you assume that the chances of success on your second free throw don’t go up because you miss the first, an 80% FT shooter is going to miss both once every 25 appearances to the line for a pair. That it didn’t happen to Alex in 2 plus years is amazing. To use the term “choked,” absent it happening in a truly critical situation (see, e.g., Marshall, Donyell), just strikes me as unfair.

But to each their own.
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How is it a choke when Donyell did it but not a choke when Alex did it? Donyell was a worse ft shooter than Alex. Donyell choked because it was a tournament game and his missed ft's put us in overtime instead of winning the game? Alex didn't choke because it was a regular season conference game and his missed ft's lost the game for us?

AK was 81% at the line this season, 89% last season, 81% as a freshman. He choked. It is what it is.
 
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superjohn said:
It has nothing to do with his character. He's a great ft shooter who had never missed 2 ft's in a row at UConn and he wasn't even close on his 2 ft's to win the game. That's a choke, it's not a big deal.
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That's your opinion.

 
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