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Yes, stress reaction in her foot. Out 4-6 weeks??
 

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I hope she's able to come back but those pesky stress reactions - not quite fractures, but they require you stay off your feet for the most part to heal. I can't imagine she's doing much cardio - maybe just working on her upper body - but I hope she considers a red shirt since she may not be ready to go till January. Having missed almost half the season of conditioning and practicing - she may be better served waiting, even if it is a really hard thing for her to do...
 
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I hope she's able to come back but those pesky stress reactions - not quite fractures, but they require you stay off your feet for the most part to heal. I can't imagine she's doing much cardio - maybe just working on her upper body - but I hope she considers a red shirt since she may not be ready to go till January. Having missed almost half the season of conditioning and practicing - she may be better served waiting, even if it is a really hard thing for her to do...
I don't believe she will be able to apply for the medical hardship waiver because it requires supporting medical evidence that she couldn't play for the rest of the season.
 

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I don't believe she will be able to apply for the medical hardship waiver because it requires supporting medical evidence that she couldn't play for the rest of the season.
Hmm. Jess Moore took a redhirt and she was never injured. Was she able to do it because she played in NO games at all?
 

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Maybe so, Eric. But, redshirt seems a little extreme, at least to me. Consider please, that the 4-6 estimate was published two weeks ago. She has missed practice and games, but she wasn't getting big minutes before the injury either. She doesn't have too much longer to sit if: a) It isn't worse than first thought, and b) She heals well.

It could be anything from a hairline fracture (bad) to a plantar strain (not too bad).

Of course, I could be wrong. It's happened before. In 1971.
 
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Hmm. Jess Moore took a redhirt and she was never injured. Was she able to do it because she played in NO games at all?

I am really really really happy that other posters answered your question.
 

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Hmm. Jess Moore took a redhirt and she was never injured. Was she able to do it because she played in NO games at all?
I am really really really happy that other posters answered your question.

Courtney will certainly receive wise counsel from Geno, his staff, and her own parents. IIRC, there may be a parallel situation: Heather Buck. I believe she came down with mono early in the season (perhaps she played in a few games?) and I doubt that the diagnosis was that she was finished for the year.

For the record, I have no enthusiasm for her taking a red shirt, even if rules permit.
 

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If the 4-6 week prognosis holds, I am quite optimistic. What with the exam break upcoming, a 4-week absence has Courtney missing just another couple of games. Even 6 weeks brings her back by the end of the month, so she misses just another few games more. She'd be available for essentially everything in 2015, the conference schedule and tourney, NCAA, etc. During the Florida trip, some BYer posted a thread about the training staff, and how Courtney was getting very enthusiastic personalized attention doing rehab in the hotel lap pool.

Again, assuming no setbacks, it'd be a wonderful thing for her to participate in most of the remaining 30+ games of the season, and a very good thing for the team.
 
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Courtney will certainly receive wise counsel from Geno, his staff, and her own parents. IIRC, there may be a parallel situation: Heather Buck. I believe she came down with mono early in the season (perhaps she played in a few games?) and I doubt that the diagnosis was that she was finished for the year.

For the record, I have no enthusiasm for her taking a red shirt, even if rules permit.
I hope she's able to come back but those pesky stress reactions - not quite fractures, but they require you stay off your feet for the most part to heal. I can't imagine she's doing much cardio - maybe just working on her upper body - but I hope she considers a red shirt since she may not be ready to go till January. Having missed almost half the season of conditioning and practicing - she may be better served waiting, even if it is a really hard thing for her to do...

She was doing some intense work in the lap pool at the Coconut Point Hyatt with Amanda Kimball over the weekend. She wore the boot everywhere, even putting it on to walk back into the hotel after her workout.
 

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Hmm. Jess Moore took a redhirt and she was never injured. Was she able to do it because she played in NO games at all?
Courtney will certainly receive wise counsel from Geno, his staff, and her own parents. IIRC, there may be a parallel situation: Heather Buck. I believe she came down with mono early in the season (perhaps she played in a few games?) and I doubt that the diagnosis was that she was finished for the year.

For the record, I have no enthusiasm for her taking a red shirt, even if rules permit.

StamfordHusky is our resident expert in these areas and he has covered this issue a few times for us. Now let's see if I correctly remember what he has told us. (Probably not)

Every athlete has 5 years to use 4 years of athletic eligibility. I believe that Jessica (and Heather) sat out a year. By sitting out (not playing at all) they never required a waiver (red shirt). They just used all 5 years to complete their 4 years of eligibility. Courtney has played and therefore is using her first year of eligibility now. As such if she wanted to not use up this year as one of her 4 years of play she would need to apply for a medical waiver. In applying for that waiver I believe that supporting medical evidence is required to show that a medical condition existed that did not allow the player to play for some period during the season. I think (and I'm really sketchy now) that if in her case she could return and play, say in January, she would not have a supporting case for a waiver to be granted to her. Of course in addition for a waiver, the other requirements often discussed such as playing in less that XX% of games and none in the second half of the season etc. etc.

Hope I didn't goof that up too much.

And for the record, I also hope that Courtney recovers well and returns to play this season and support the team.
 

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Courtney will certainly receive wise counsel from Geno, his staff, and her own parents. IIRC, there may be a parallel situation: Heather Buck. I believe she came down with mono early in the season (perhaps she played in a few games?) and I doubt that the diagnosis was that she was finished for the year.

For the record, I have no enthusiasm for her taking a red shirt, even if rules permit.
Why? If a rotation is established before she is back, why burn a year of eligibility?
 

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In applying for that waiver I believe that supporting medical evidence is required to show that a medical condition existed that did not allow the player to prylay for some period during the season. I think (and I'm really sketchy now) that if in her case she could return and play, say in January, she would not have a supporting case for a waiver to be granted to her. Of course in addition for a waiver, the other requirements often discussed such as playing in less that XX% of games and none in the second half of the season etc. etc.
"Some period during the season" = the remainder of the season. So ability to come back in January would indeed prevent the waiver.

"XX% of games" = 30%

On the other hand, I don't think the "remainder of the season" rule is enforced with precision. Kib recalls correctly about Heather Buck. Presumably with mono she could've come back at some point, if not effectively. I think the medical evidence must indicate that, as a practical matter, the season is shot, not that the player couldn't stagger out on the court for a few games late in the season.
 
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StamfordHusky is our resident expert in these areas and he has covered this issue a few times for us. Now let's see if I correctly remember what he has told us. (Probably not)

Every athlete has 5 years to use 4 years of athletic eligibility. I believe that Jessica (and Heather) sat out a year. By sitting out (not playing at all) they never required a waiver (red shirt). They just used all 5 years to complete their 4 years of eligibility. Courtney has played and therefore is using her first year of eligibility now. As such if she wanted to not use up this year as one of her 4 years of play she would need to apply for a medical waiver. In applying for that waiver I believe that supporting medical evidence is required to show that a medical condition existed that did not allow the player to play for some period during the season. I think (and I'm really sketchy now) that if in her case she could return and play, say in January, she would not have a supporting case for a waiver to be granted to her. Of course in addition for a waiver, the other requirements often discussed such as playing in less that XX% of games and none in the second half of the season etc. etc.

Hope I didn't goof that up too much.

And for the record, I also hope that Courtney recovers well and returns to play this season and support the team.
That sounds right. That's how I remember the rule. If you can come back and play, that is encouraged, otherwise you could think of ways where teams could take advantage of the rules.
 

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I hope Courtney gets better fast because I have this vision of two sharp shooting snipers (KML and Courtney) one on each side of the court...raining threes down on the opposition with monotonous regularity... :)
 

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Why? If a rotation is established before she is back, why burn a year of eligibility?
That would normally be my inclination too, assuming the waiver can be obtained if sought.

In her case, it might be more than usually difficult to swallow because she already sat out a year in high school.
 
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Oh ok thanks for the clarification. Well I hope she does whatever is best for her!!
 

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Why? If a rotation is established before she is back, why burn a year of eligibility?
I can think of a couple of reasons, CL.
First, if your rotation is, essentially, 8, that's not the deepest - particularly since, thus far, only Chong and TLaw seem to be 3-point threats.
Second, if you can get Courtney a couple of hundred game minutes (not unlikely, with over 30 games and majority against conference foes), that's not insignificant in terms of her development.
Lastly, and most importantly, illness and injury - if your rotation stays intact, perhaps she's a luxury. Frankly, that's unlikely, based on history. So, get her minutes in late Dec., and in Jan., so, if somebody gets hurt or comes down with demeaning plebney in February, she'll be better prepared.
 

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That would normally be my inclination too, assuming the waiver can be obtained if sought.

In her case, it might be more than usually difficult to swallow because she already sat out a year in high school.
Hadn't thought of that but very good point.
 
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Why? If a rotation is established before she is back, why burn a year of eligibility?
Because she has already played in a game and thus used up her ability to "Red Shirt". The only other option is to apply for a medical hardship waiver. However, I don't think that a stress reaction will even come close to fulfilling the requirements needed to e granted a hardship waiver.
 

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I can think of a couple of reasons, CL.
First, if your rotation is, essentially, 8, that's not the deepest - particularly since, thus far, only Chong and TLaw seem to be 3-point threats.
Second, if you can get Courtney a couple of hundred game minutes (not unlikely, with over 30 games and majority against conference foes), that's not insignificant in terms of her development.
Lastly, and most importantly, illness and injury - if your rotation stays intact, perhaps she's a luxury. Frankly, that's unlikely, based on history. So, get her minutes in late Dec., and in Jan., so, if somebody gets hurt or comes down with demeaning plebney in February, she'll be better prepared.
Wait, what? You are counting Tierney as a three point threat and not Kaleena? Or Stewie? Or Moriah? Or Kia?
 

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Wait, what? You are counting Tierney as a three point threat and not Kaleena? Or Stewie? Or Moriah? Or Kia?
Or were you just talking about off the bench? I'm confused...
 

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Here is how I see Courtney being a real contributor for UConn. We have Stewie who can really score in a variety of ways...you can't afford to not play her and if possible might as well double up on her and yes...you have to play her physically or she will just absolutely ruin you day. Then you have Morgan Tuck, who gets stronger in the post day by day...she needs to soften up her touch and not overpower the ball...and she can step out for a three, her shot hasn't been there this year, but it will come around as she has historically been a good three point shooter...In time, I think she will be great to take over Dolson's role of hitting the foul line extension shot. Let's not forget that she won the Nike all-star three point contest. You can't leave Tuck alone or she will do a lot of damage in the post and you have to follow he out to the three point line if she flashes outward. Then there is Moriah Jefferson...who in addition to being a thief...she is lightning fast and will make you pay if you try and play her close...so, now she is working on her three point shot and by the way she is shooting about 41 % right now... If we can get her to take a few more it will cause defenses to have nightmares...can't guard her close she will leave you with broken ankles and you can't leave her alone or she will hurt you from three. Now, let's talk about Kia Nurse...Geno likes her so much that for the last two games he didn't take her out for the first 30 minutes of each game. And, what does she do...she goes and wins the MVP of the tournament as a freshman. Considering that she beat out two players who will arguably be in the conversation for POY (Stewie and KML) that is pretty incredible... So in addition to being a stat stuffer just how good is she from three point land? Hmmmm, well... 8 for 19 or 42 % isn't bad. Then there is lights out KML...C'mon, she is other worldly when it comes to shooting threes...she is currently shooting over 60 percent...ridiculous if you ask me. She is only 10 threes from breaking Maya's UConn three-point record and 17 away from breaking the infallible DT's... She is without a doubt the indisputable best three point shooter in the country right now. Finally, enter Courtney, who many think will replace KML as a three point specialist...when other teams are substituting their 6th, 7th and 8th player off the bench...Geno has the luxury of bringing in Kia, "the human eraser", Gabby Williams whose athleticism is off the charts and whose upside is impossible to calculate at this time and Courtney. Can you just see it raining threes from Moriah, Stewie, Nurse, Tuck and KML...then you bring in the subs and Courtney keeps the rain falling...it could be a thing of beauty. Courtney from one side, KML from the other...opposing teams chasing our three point shooters who start throwing the ball inside to Kia, Tuck and / or Stewie. I think this year gets better and better as we go along...and come March and April this team is going to be fun to watch.
 

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Then there is lights out KML...C'mon, she is other worldly when it comes to shooting threes...she is currently shooting over 60 percent...ridiculous if you ask me. She is only 10 threes from breaking Maya's UConn three-point record and 17 away from breaking the infallible DT's... She is without a doubt the indisputable best three point shooter in the country right now.

Amazingly, KML's 61.5% clip from three is only 6th in the country. Oregon State's terrific sophomore Sydney Wiese is at 71%.
 
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