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Message: [QUOTE="veryolddog, post: 2975535, member: 129"] I spent 23 years in the USMC from 67 to 91. The only way to keep Marines on the top is to have them compete in the most difficult and horrific situations possible. Their mission is to win, no matter what circumstances prevail. That is the training and that is why they are placed in difficult situations. The Seals are trained even with more intensity. We are not on a ledge, Sir, they are prepared to win. And, don't thank me for my service. Vets are sick and tired of hearing that crap. They want to be showed. [/QUOTE]