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Message: [QUOTE="Jaydumo20, post: 4637673, member: 9280"] I thought about him in particular. I'm not sure. When I think of mastery I don't necessarily only look at # of wins and longevity. I don't equate long success with mastery per se. Peyton manning for example has the same amount of rings as eli but Peyton is THE master of football. He had a different command of the game than other people. The Masters seem to see the game in a different way than everyone else, which is why I think you can show mastery without a stockpile of trophies...It may lead to that though. I thought the way Danny and the staff won the tourney was different than the way other coaches have. It's almost like he figured something out. [/QUOTE]