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Message: [QUOTE="nwhoopfan, post: 4135511, member: 7894"] That's an interesting set of criteria to use. Some of those Pac 12 coaches who got a team to a singular Final 4 are not necessarily better overall when looking at their career than Close. I'd take her over Gottlieb in a heartbeat. I'd probably take her over Neighbors. While overall tilts in favor of Rueck, the recent trend is shifting toward her. Barnes is still a little too soon to tell. UCLA has finished in the top 4 of the Pac 12 the last 6 years, that's worth something. Tara is the only other coach who has done the same. [/QUOTE]