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Message: [QUOTE="kemba, post: 2466928, member: 1133"] Because they were freshmen and sophomores? And Napier played a major role on a championship team under Calhoun, and Giffey contributed to that team as well. Ollie did an amazing job his first 2 years. While saying "with Calhoun's players" is a bit of a knock, to me it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a ton of credit for what they accomplished. I think its a small number of coaches who deliver us the 2014 championship. Fact remains though that as great of a job he did those first 2 years when we were still in transition from the Calhoun era, its been a disaster once the program became completely his. Whether hes gone after the wrong players, surrounded himself with the wrong coaches, not developed guys early in their career the way Calhoun did, changed himself, or some combination of those things, I don't know. But its just reality that coaching players recruited and somewhat developed by Calhoun with a lot of Calhoun's coaching staff providing support, versus doing all the recruting, developing, and picking the coaching staff are 2 different things. [/QUOTE]