Congrats World Wide Wes
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This just proves that they need to implement a salary cap in college basketball for competitive balance!
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Rip does't have the best track record on judging the people he surrounds himself with......
I dont really have a point lol, I just find it interesting that Rip is one of his clients
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i really dont understand how dickie v and people can think hes clean when he has www surround recruits and jay z and others
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Technically WWW doesn't have any "clients" he's not really an official agent. He's not really anything. Just a slime ball who Cal subsidizes to influence these kids to come to his teams.
Fact is Cal gets a pass on all this because he's a media darling. He eats this up. He gives the media all the quotes they want he smiles he gives them what they want so they don't pull the rug up to look for the dirt.
Sickens me. Better make sure UK doesn't pack the ladders too far away when they hang this banner cause they're going to need them to take it down in a year or 2 when this undoubtedly gets vacated.
Fact is Cal gets a pass on all this because he's a media darling. He eats this up. He gives the media all the quotes they want he smiles he gives them what they want so they don't pull the rug up to look for the dirt.
Sickens me. Better make sure UK doesn't pack the ladders too far away when they hang this banner cause they're going to need them to take it down in a year or 2 when this undoubtedly gets vacated.
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It won't get vacated. The NCAA won't stand for a black eye that big. They will look the other way like the did for Duke and Maggette.
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I was just telling someone I hate his whole funny/cutesy act he pulls.
Case in point tonight, "Where's Grandma? Where's Grandma sitting?" on the stage tonight with that greasy smile on his mug.
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Sounds like a mob boss crooning about his mother's pasta fazool while he's on the witness stand.
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Over on the Kansas scout board they posted a picture of World Wide Wes doing the Jay-Z illuminati sign as the Kentucky fans are carrying him on their shoulders on the championship floor, it's so freaking sickening. He and Cal don't even try to hide what's going on they flaunt it and the NCAA does nothing.
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I'm pretty sure WWW is actually a coach's agent and Cal is his biggest client. At the very least, he's a consultant for CAA ( Creative Artists Agency)
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and did anyone see www on the floor after the game with potential recruits giving hugs to them?
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here is a pic of him hugging one player...looks like is Anthony Davis next to him. Im not sure what the security lady is doing but she looks pretty fragile to be security.
"So yeah. Kentucky won an NCAA Championship on Monday. After the game, Wildcats star Anthony Davis climbed into the stands and shared a celebratory hug with Wesley, who was sitting in the Kentucky family section inside the Superdome. "
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...2012/04/worldwide_wes_was_behind_the_k_1.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...2012/04/worldwide_wes_was_behind_the_k_1.html
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You know, it's almost like by flaunting this stuff, Calipari is trying to convince the NCAA that there's nothing sketchy about it.
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Heres a good, quick, read from the Louisville board....http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=8875957
I am writing this due to the number of posts that accuse several major programs of cheating and the follow up posts that ask why doesn't the NCAA do anything about it. First let me say, that I have coached at some of the biggest HS basketball camps in the country and I have family and friends at every level of basketball from NBA GM's to college coaches, high school coaches, agents themselves and journalists at ESPN.
What I am writing is not a guess of what's going on in college recruiting it is a fact. Several years ago cheating as a college coach meant your school was paying HS or Junior College players to sign with them. The going rate for top 20 talent was around 50k cash. Some schools like Missouri got caught and many others did not.
Things started to change when the NBA first made the rule allowing kids to be drafted straight out of HS. This rule gave agents an incentive to start cultivating relationships with HS players and coaches and "handlers". Once those relationships were made, agents became the power brokers of college basketball. However, this didn't really impact the game until the NBA once again changed the rules and stated that a player must at least wait one year after his class graduates to be drafted.
This rule meant that the agents had to find college coaches that would take the player's they had great relationships with and not try and turn the player's toward a competing agent while that player played for that coach. This is where I know every top ten program play's the game if you will. You do not get several McDonald all american's without understanding how this works.
Now here is where Coach Cal up's the ante. While many coaches will do what I mentioned above most will still try and keep the player's in college as long as possible or at least until the player is definitely ready for the next step. Coach Cal does the opposite and the agents love it. Coach Cal's message is you have one year here and then I am kicking you out. The agents love it, because they get the player back earlier which helps in two ways, the obvious one being agents make money when players sign contracts and two the shorter period of time a player is in college the less chance another agent will be able to sway them to their agency. The player's love it because they know starting spots will definitely open up for them and Coach Cal is going to give them heavy minutes and do all he can to push them to the NBA.
Added on top of this is the fact that it is UK and Coach Cal is considered by those of us in the game to be a good coach and there you go, UK get's just about any player they want.
Don't get me wrong, there are other coaches who agents believe do a good job preparing player's for the NBA, only most of them have a conscious and won't push a player out of the program whether they are ready or not. If you notice this year's UK team has a couple of sophomores, the main reason for that is the NBA lockout. Jones is definitely gone last year if it was a normal year and maybe even Lamb although occasionally agents will let Cal keep a player there if the player has a chance to move up from a second rounder or free agent to a first rounder because first round draft picks get guaranteed cash and second rounders most often do not. Player doesn't make money neither do the agents.
It should be noted not all agents play this game, however several of the biggest one's do and Coach Cal is tied in tight with them.
Now the question is, is this cheating or not, in many cases player's or their families or handler's get a line of credit ( there are many times the player doesn't even know about it)
to me this is obviously cheating by the agents, but where do the colleges come in. I can tell you the college coaches have nothing to do with the cash and don't want to know if a player received any benefits or not from the agent. Yes, they all bury their head in the sand. But before you crucify them realize they don't have much of a choice, they do not know who get's paid and who doesn't usually. They don't break any current rules, all they do is say to player's when they are ready to leave " ok you like Andy Miller ( NBA agent ) go for it, sign with him" and really don't get in the way.
Now, is their other types of cheating going on, a little bit not anything huge. Example might be Coach Cal allowing D. Rose's brother to ride to games on the team plane and stuff like that.
What I am writing is not a guess of what's going on in college recruiting it is a fact. Several years ago cheating as a college coach meant your school was paying HS or Junior College players to sign with them. The going rate for top 20 talent was around 50k cash. Some schools like Missouri got caught and many others did not.
Things started to change when the NBA first made the rule allowing kids to be drafted straight out of HS. This rule gave agents an incentive to start cultivating relationships with HS players and coaches and "handlers". Once those relationships were made, agents became the power brokers of college basketball. However, this didn't really impact the game until the NBA once again changed the rules and stated that a player must at least wait one year after his class graduates to be drafted.
This rule meant that the agents had to find college coaches that would take the player's they had great relationships with and not try and turn the player's toward a competing agent while that player played for that coach. This is where I know every top ten program play's the game if you will. You do not get several McDonald all american's without understanding how this works.
Now here is where Coach Cal up's the ante. While many coaches will do what I mentioned above most will still try and keep the player's in college as long as possible or at least until the player is definitely ready for the next step. Coach Cal does the opposite and the agents love it. Coach Cal's message is you have one year here and then I am kicking you out. The agents love it, because they get the player back earlier which helps in two ways, the obvious one being agents make money when players sign contracts and two the shorter period of time a player is in college the less chance another agent will be able to sway them to their agency. The player's love it because they know starting spots will definitely open up for them and Coach Cal is going to give them heavy minutes and do all he can to push them to the NBA.
Added on top of this is the fact that it is UK and Coach Cal is considered by those of us in the game to be a good coach and there you go, UK get's just about any player they want.
Don't get me wrong, there are other coaches who agents believe do a good job preparing player's for the NBA, only most of them have a conscious and won't push a player out of the program whether they are ready or not. If you notice this year's UK team has a couple of sophomores, the main reason for that is the NBA lockout. Jones is definitely gone last year if it was a normal year and maybe even Lamb although occasionally agents will let Cal keep a player there if the player has a chance to move up from a second rounder or free agent to a first rounder because first round draft picks get guaranteed cash and second rounders most often do not. Player doesn't make money neither do the agents.
It should be noted not all agents play this game, however several of the biggest one's do and Coach Cal is tied in tight with them.
Now the question is, is this cheating or not, in many cases player's or their families or handler's get a line of credit ( there are many times the player doesn't even know about it)
to me this is obviously cheating by the agents, but where do the colleges come in. I can tell you the college coaches have nothing to do with the cash and don't want to know if a player received any benefits or not from the agent. Yes, they all bury their head in the sand. But before you crucify them realize they don't have much of a choice, they do not know who get's paid and who doesn't usually. They don't break any current rules, all they do is say to player's when they are ready to leave " ok you like Andy Miller ( NBA agent ) go for it, sign with him" and really don't get in the way.
Now, is their other types of cheating going on, a little bit not anything huge. Example might be Coach Cal allowing D. Rose's brother to ride to games on the team plane and stuff like that.
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That's really the issue. It's not that Cal's relationships constitute cheating, but his approach is to exploit and cater to the games seediest elements. When you're that tied in with agents, the chance of eligibility-destroying extra benefits being paid increase exponentially, which is what happened at his previous two college stops.
If they vacated the Heisman, why not this (if there is anything to vacate).
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