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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 3386079, member: 7492"] In watching the PAC12 last night, I crystalized my view that Stanford, Oregon and OSU are clearly the best of that conference and deserving of top 8 ranking (or higher). It also got me thinking about where to rank UCLA, Arizona and Arizona State against the ACC and Big Ten. The SEC is South Carolina's to lose and they have distanced themselves from Texas A&M and Kentucky. So that begs the question what to do about the ACC and Big Ten? The ACC is up for grabs this year as ND is dreadful (yippee) and Louisville, despite a big win against Oregon does not look dominant. FSU while good, is not great as a loss to VPI (damn you [USER=378]@triaddukefan[/USER] for planting that in my head) dampened their run to a title. NC State has had too many squeakers against middling teams to be elite. Add in Miami, Syracuse, VPI, NC and that leaves us with parity. The Big10 was supposed to have Maryland as it's national elite team but something happened to that coronation as they were dismantled at home against SC and have 2 other losses. Indiana has taken a nice step forward but they are not elite. Add in Northwestern, Michigan, tOSU, Michigan State, Purdue, Minnesota and even Rutgers into the mix and another toss-up for a title exists. [/QUOTE]