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Message: [QUOTE="RuffRuff, post: 5336782, member: 1268"] It's why Pitino is avoiding this level altogether. If we look at drafted freshmen in 2025 (18 out of 30 picks), besides Duke, how many drove winning, or at least contributed to it in a substantial way? [B]1. Mavericks [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/cooper-flagg']Cooper Flagg[/URL] (Duke) [B]2. Spurs [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/dylan-harper']Dylan Harper[/URL] (Rutgers) [B]3. 76ers [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/vj-edgecombe']VJ Edgecombe[/URL] (Baylor) [B]4. Hornets[/B] draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/kon-knueppel']Kon Knueppel[/URL] (Duke) [B]5. Jazz [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/ace-bailey']Ace Bailey[/URL] (Rutgers) [B]6. Wizards [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/tre-johnson']Tre Johnson[/URL] (Texas) [B]7. Pelicans [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/jeremiah-fears']Jeremiah Fears[/URL] (Oklahoma) [B]8. Nets [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/egor-demin']Egor Demin[/URL] (BYU) [B]10. Rockets[/B] draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/khaman-maluach']Khaman Maluach[/URL] (Duke) – [URL='https://www.nba.com/news/suns-rockets-trade-kevin-durant']Traded to Suns[/URL] [B]13. Hawks [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/derik-queen']Derik Queen[/URL] (Maryland) – [URL='https://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/derik-queen-nba-draft-trade-forward-center-maryland-new-orleans-pelicans-atlanta-hawks-first-round-draft-pick-13']Traded to Pelicans[/URL] [B]14. Spurs [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/carter-bryant']Carter Bryant[/URL] (Arizona) [B]15. Thunder [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/thomas-sorber']Thomas Sorber[/URL] (Georgetown) [B]20. Heat [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/kasparas-jakucionis']Kasparas Jakučionis[/URL] (Illinois) [B]21. Jazz [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/will-riley']Will Riley[/URL] (Illinois) – [URL='https://x.com/WashWizards/status/1938082193785397462']Traded to Wizards[/URL] [B]22. Hawks [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/drake-powell']Drake Powell[/URL] (North Carolina) – [URL='https://x.com/BrooklynNets/status/1938071333008482655']Traded to Nets[/URL] [B]23. Pelicans[/B] draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/asa-newell']Asa Newell[/URL] (Georgia) – [URL='https://www.nba.com/hawks/news/atlanta-hawks-acquire-the-draft-rights-of-asa-newell-the-no-23-pick-in-the-2025-nba-draft']Traded to Hawks[/URL] [B]25. Magic [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/jase-richardson']Jase Richardson[/URL] (Michigan State) [B]29. Suns [/B]draft [URL='https://www.nba.com/draft/2025/prospects/liam-mcneeley']Liam McNeeley[/URL] (Connecticut) – [URL='https://www.nba.com/hornets/news/charlotte-hornets-agree-in-principle-to-acquire-the-draft-rights-to-liam-mcneeley']Traded to Hornets[/URL] Richardson, Demin and Queen? 6 out of 18, 3 on one team? Not a lot of ROI in my book. Market is still adjusting to this stuff, last year was a massive over index because of a really talented class and capless spend. The more data that supports freshmen are over-valued, in a weak class like this, the more it will force a correction especially with the new ceiling. I'm sure the current crop comes to their senses once the agent greed settles. Last year I believe it was Ament, Burries and Peat that held out until the portal period. I'll be curious how many do the same this year as could be playing with fire. [IMG alt="Warner Media Logo"]https://cdn.nba.com/logos/other/logo-warnermedia.svg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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