College Soccer is pointless
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Samoo
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Sounds off. I googled around a bit and the couple of lists I could find showed that the top-ranked players that chose to go to college were recruited and committed. Most were also connected to a club team. The very best of course choose to skip college.
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Whats the new roster limitations for scholarships? Feel like theres a niche for state directionals and/or smaller schools to go all in on certain Olympic sports considering large schools will likely not be willing to offer more money than they currently do in order to fund revenue share
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It’s not the limitations. The direction these college coaches have gone in is to bring in talent from overseas.
It’s already a niche/fringe college sport. It has weird rules compared to real soccer. The season is too short for it to be a serious developmental platform so it’s very much divorced from linkage to the pro game. For an American to get in you need to be an outcast from an MLS Academy.
So it just results in less opportunities for Americans to play.
They need to reform the whole thing. Extend the season and get rid of the rinky dink high school gym teacher rules.
Chin Diesel
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More likely it's reduced to a club sport.
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Need to extend the season for sure. Don't see why they couldn't start in early August.
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Needs to be a 8/9 month season.
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It can exist and should exist, but not all of them need to be a national scope D1 sport and offer the same level of expenses- scholarships, facilities as the major sports.
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If a good player does not want to be caught up in the influx of foreign players and other issues with D-1 soccer, there are a ton of quality Division III schools that play amazing soccer. They won't do athletic scholarships, but the financial aid for a good player always seems to appear. I hear the same complaints about baseball and the time, money, and effort put into travel teams and training only to have no D-1 interest.
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Tell that to UVM fans. Catamounts into the national championship Monday night!
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First time any school from America East will play in a national championship final in any NCAA sport. Absolutely true that college soccer is not a pathway to professional soccer due to many limitations, but on the other hand small schools with small athletic departments being able to compete in a sport on a national level ought to be what the NCAA is about.
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As someone who has owned a second home in Vermont for 20 years, good for the Catamounts and, as a banner in the crowd said, “The 802”. While college soccer is not what top quality soccer is about, it is exactly what college sports ought to be.
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College soccer is a legitimate path to MLS. It’s not a path to Europe if that’s your only definition of pro soccer. But then again if you still need to develop at college age, you’re basically past your prime in that sense. Not sure what’s wrong with MLS or USL though. For some players that could be a 6 figure salary or a stepping stone to something bigger.
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The MLS Draft is basically a non event. Something like 50% of the players drafted actually get on the roster.
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Why are all of those foreign players coming to the US to play? Are they mediocre players using college soccer to get an education? Seriously curious. If US college soccer is useless for development and opportunities, then why are they coming so far?
I got to know my kids' club's trainers at a personal level over the years. A few of them bumped around Europe for a bit after college. They all said that college soccer was just a four year delay to playing professionally, but only one really regretted going. The others felt they probably wouldn't have done much better professionally and at least they had a degree to fall back on. I play with a bunch of them in a Sunday league. They are fantastic players even long after their real playing days.
But I went to a women's game at FDU recently since I knew a player on the other team. The FDU team only had 1 American player in the lineup (but there are plenty of Americans on the roster). Game ended in a tie and I frankly wasn't impressed with either team. I absolutely saw girls in high school that never got any interest from colleges (at any Division level) that were just as good as many of the players on the field in a D1 game.
I got to know my kids' club's trainers at a personal level over the years. A few of them bumped around Europe for a bit after college. They all said that college soccer was just a four year delay to playing professionally, but only one really regretted going. The others felt they probably wouldn't have done much better professionally and at least they had a degree to fall back on. I play with a bunch of them in a Sunday league. They are fantastic players even long after their real playing days.
But I went to a women's game at FDU recently since I knew a player on the other team. The FDU team only had 1 American player in the lineup (but there are plenty of Americans on the roster). Game ended in a tie and I frankly wasn't impressed with either team. I absolutely saw girls in high school that never got any interest from colleges (at any Division level) that were just as good as many of the players on the field in a D1 game.
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Yes.
They also come to bolster their shot a permanent residency and to escape whatever may be going on in their home country. In the US soccer is a country club sport. In the rest of the world it is a sport for the very poor.
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Watched it. Nice ending.
The whole thing still needs to get blown up.
Funniest part was interviewing the UVM player after the game: " Soccer is a small sport here but it's the biggest in my country"
Biggest sport in the World. I live outside the US most of the year. I have learned to love the sport. I was visiting my wife’s family in Ireland and her cousin was a top notch player in Ireland. I said to him oh you play soccer. He looked at me funny. He said yes I play football.