Chief’s Briefs - Butler Edition

[Chief00]

The veterans Karaban and Diarra made the big plays at the end along with some help from the freshman McNeeley.

12 to 30 foul shots, why do so many think this is not a huge unfair issue? As in Maui, it is difficult to win when your opponent gets 250% more foul shots before the final deliberate fouls.

Our 3 point shooting improvement (45%) was led my Karaban and McNeeley. However, Ball had an off night. The 9 point advantage we had on threes made the difference.

We need better defense from the center position and less mistakes. Screen had a double/double and was 9-9 from the foul line. That was the primary reason he was 11 points over his 6 points per game average. We had 8 fouls from our center position.

Mahaney played well and we even saw him play with Diarra some, as Chief has been advocating. Still overall his plus/minus was underwater, but it was really other guys making mistakes not him. He had 7 points and as a shooting guard with McNeeley and Karaban out there we could be really hard to defend on the 3 line with Diarra running the show and Reed giving us a post threat.

Rebounding and assists advantages, which usually indicate a UConn win, were not significant. But, a very good road win in a tough building.

 

[CTBasketball]

This team’s maximum potential will be obtained with an improved Mahaney getting more minutes than Ball.

 

[Drame]

This team’s maximum potential will be obtained with an improved Mahaney getting more minutes than Ball.

Ha ha ha

 

[hookshot]

One reason: Uconn perimeter defense (or the lack there of) has a lot of opponents going to the rim which leads to foul calls

 

[Mike Honcho]

12 to 30 foul shots, why do so many think this is not a huge unfair issue? As in Maui it is difficult to win win your opponent gets 250% more foul shots before the final deliberate fouls.

Butler is 41st across D1 in committing fouls (14.7 per game). They are 29th in drawing fouls (20.2 per game).
We are 329th (19.3). We are 123 in drawing fouls (18.1).

It's not a conspiracy. They commit few fouls. We foul a lot. They draw a lot of fouls.

 

[Marbles90]

12 to 30 foul shots, why do so many think this is not a huge unfair issue? As in Maui, it is difficult to win when your opponent gets 250% more foul shots before the final deliberate fouls.

What is unfair? Is there so new rule that refs must call equal fouls? Did you watch the game or just look at the box score?? Refs called 20 fouls on us. Could have easily been 35. Spoiler Alert!! We foul ALOT.

 

[Chin Diesel]

The veterans Karaban and Diarra made the big plays at the end along with some help from the freshman McNeeley.

12 to 30 foul shots, why do so many think this is not a huge unfair issue? As in Maui, it is difficult to win when your opponent gets 250% more foul shots before the final deliberate fouls.

Our 3 point shooting improvement (45%) was led my Karaban and McNeeley. However, Ball had an off night. The 9 point advantage we had on threes made the difference.

We need better defense from the center position and less mistakes. Screen had a double/double and was 9-9 from the foul line. That was the primary reason he was 11 points over his 6 points per game average. We had 8 fouls from our center position.

Mahaney played well and we even saw him play with Diarra some, as Chief has been advocating. Still overall his plus/minus was underwater, but it was really other guys making mistakes not him. He had 7 points and as a shooting guard with McNeeley and Karaban out there we could be really hard to defend on the 3 line with Diarra running the show and Reed giving us a post threat.

Rebounding and assists advantages, which usually indicate a UConn win, were not significant. But, a very good road win in a tough building.

Seems like several 'yarders are contemplating Diarra and Mahaney as a combo for a few minutes each game.

 

[Chief00]

This team’s maximum potential will be obtained with an improved Mahaney getting more minutes than Ball.

I don’t know if more minutes, Ball was our leading scorer last game. But all 3 guards can have an important role. Mahaney out there as a shooter with Karaban and McNeeley could also open things up in the post for Reed.

 

[Chief00]

What is unfair? Is there so new rule that refs must call equal fouls? Did you watch the game or just look at the box score?? Refs called 20 fouls on us. Could have easily been 35. Spoiler Alert!! We foul ALOT.

The meaningful metric is foul shot attempts - who is advocating equal foul shot attempts, just maybe not a 250% advantage of FT attempts when both teams are playing the same level of aggressive defense.

And some will blame Hurley again which is ridiculous.

 

[Excalibur]

Hmm, who was the primary ball handler when Mahaney and Diarra were both in?

 

[Captbluefin]

Once the bench comes in ( Mahaney) in the first half the lead goes right away.

Time to change the substitution pattern

 

[Excalibur]

What is unfair? Is there so new rule that refs must call equal fouls? Did you watch the game or just look at the box score?? Refs called 20 fouls on us. Could have easily been 35. Spoiler Alert!! We foul ALOT.

It's clear to those with eyes that we get called for things that our opponents do not.

 

[Excalibur]

Once the bench comes in ( Mahaney) in the first half the lead goes right away.

Time to change the substitution pattern

Wasn't so much Mahaney as the Stewart/Ross/Mahaney combination.

 

[Chief00]

Butler is 41st across D1 in committing fouls (14.7 per game). They are 29th in drawing fouls (20.2 per game).
We are 329th (19.3). We are 123 in drawing fouls (18.1).

It's not a conspiracy. They commit few fouls. We foul a lot. They draw a lot of fouls.

We get a lot of shooting fouls against us, I have posted that after almost every game this year. And now refs with axes to grind against Hurley are embolden further after the lopsided Maui articles.
Do you really think we should be ranked on merits 329th in the country on anything on the court? It is such a fools errand to believe so.

 

[Mike Honcho]

The meaningful metric is foul shot attempts - who is advocating equal foul shot attempts, just maybe not a 250% advantage of FT attempts when both teams are playing the same level of aggressive defense.

And some will blame Hurley again which is ridiculous.

Ok, some more stats.

We are 294th in 2PA (32.3 pg), and 56th in 3PA (27.2 pg). That's not a winning combo for putting pressure on the defense and drawing fouls. You want to draw fouls? Get into the lane more. That's not how this team has been built, however.

Liam has been doing it more recently, and he's been relatively effective. But I'm not sure we're going to change our identity much to alter the FT disparity calculus.

 

[Chief00]

Wasn't so much Mahaney as the Stewart/Ross/Mahaney combination.

I agree. Mahaney had 7 points and did good things today, Ross was disappointing today but had other good games.

 

[Excalibur]

Stewart was particularly off today.

 

[Chief00]

Ok, some more stats.

We are 294th in 2PA (32.3 pg), and 56th in 3PA (27.2 pg). That's not a winning combo for putting pressure on the defense and drawing fouls. You want to draw fouls? Get into the lane more. That's not how this team has been built, however.

Liam has been doing it more recently, and he's been relatively effective. But I'm not sure we're going to change our identity much to alter the FT disparity calculus.

The way you expressed the stats makes no sense - are we 294th in 2 point FG attempts or points from 2 point field goal attempts?

 

[Hankster]

It's clear to those with eyes that we get called for things that our opponents do not.

I was listening on the radio. The announcers were commenting "did you see a foul"? Back and forth. It's been like that from the beginning. I rarely blame ref's. But lately some seem not a foul.

 

[Chief00]

What is unfair? Is there so new rule that refs must call equal fouls? Did you watch the game or just look at the box score?? Refs called 20 fouls on us. Could have easily been 35. Spoiler Alert!! We foul ALOT.

I watched the games. You realize our centers have averaged 19.8 points, 12 rebounds and 3.5 blocks per game. Their FG% is over 70%. They are definitely a factor in the paint.

 

[Mike Honcho]

The way you expressed the stats makes no sense - are we 294th in 2 point FG attempts or points from 2 point field goal attempts?

The former. We are 294th in 2 point field goal attempts. You tend to get fouled more on 2 point attempts than 3 point attempts, and we are designed to take a lot of threes.

 

[Glastonhusky]

Seems like several 'yarders are contemplating Diarra and Mahaney as a combo for a few minutes each game.

Agree with this. When Mahaney runs point things stagnate, when he's paired with Diarra, much better.

 

[alphasigko]

Ross.... What does he do?

 

[Glastonhusky]

Ross.... What does he do?

Generally plays good D and gives us much needed length on the perimeter (huge steal late in the Gonzaga game). A little raw offensively, hit a nice 3 today, but then can throw up some wild shots. I had a bad feeling he was going to mess up that 2 on 1 break today. A lot of potential there though.

 

[Drame]

Ross.... What does he do?

He scored 4 points which was the difference in the score today.