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CBSS article - Tranfers, Boom & Bust

Will save people time in terms of clicking through if they only care about UConn - none of our transfers are on this list as either impact players or busts...which I think makes sense. As much as people have complained about Aiden and Tarris at times, they've been decent - not amazing, not awful.
 
UCann said:
Will save people time in terms of clicking through if they only care about UConn - none of our transfers are on this list as either impact players or busts...which I think makes sense. As much as people have complained about Aiden and Tarris at times, they've been decent - not amazing, not awful.
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Problem is we needed one to be amazing.
 
Tarris might be amazing by now, but he doesn’t get a ton of minutes. I’m not sure if he and Sam splitting time is good or bad. Tarris exhibits so much talent, sometimes I think we should be playing him more and developing him faster. Other times, Sam comes through and Tarris looks disengaged.
 
Hoophound said:
Tarris might be amazing by now, but he doesn’t get a ton of minutes. I’m not sure if he and Sam splitting time is good or bad. Tarris exhibits so much talent, sometimes I think we should be playing him more and developing him faster. Other times, Sam comes through and Tarris looks disengaged.
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It’s hard to know. He is so physically talented.

I watched him closely tonight off the ball at points he was dominating inside. There are so many times when he’s hot it seems so obvious to dump it right back in, but then if you watch him he’s hiding in the paint, when he could be actively flashing. So he just doesn’t make himself available. He is definitely a kid that should be playing in front of his man, not behind. So while you’d like him to he utilized more often, it’s on him to make himself available. He’s also a kid that seems to play better all around if he’s getting touches and buckets.
 
The other takeaway here is that there's no really good team out there that has one of these transfers other than maybe Tennessee. So we can sit here and say "you need an impact transfer" but with the 5th year guys mostly gone, there aren't going to be as many impact transfers anymore. The portal is a path from bad to OK (Michigan). It's also a path from OK to pretty good (Vanderbilt, Memphis). It's a gap filler if you need a key experienced player. It's also a path from OK to bad if you do it wrong (K State).

UConn is not likely to find a savior player in the portal for next season. The kids are going to have to be very good, and whatever Juniors we still have are going to have to step up.
 
HuskyHawk said:
UConn is not likely to find a savior player in the portal for next season. The kids are going to have to be very good, and whatever Juniors we still have are going to have to step up.
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If that's the case we're screwed. Can't go into next season with Nowell and Mahaney as the point guards.
 
HuskyHawk said:
The other takeaway here is that there's no really good team out there that has one of these transfers other than maybe Tennessee. So we can sit here and say "you need an impact transfer" but with the 5th year guys mostly gone, there aren't going to be as many impact transfers anymore. The portal is a path from bad to OK (Michigan). It's also a path from OK to pretty good (Vanderbilt, Memphis). It's a gap filler if you need a key experienced player. It's also a path from OK to bad if you do it wrong (K State).

UConn is not likely to find a savior player in the portal for next season. The kids are going to have to be very good, and whatever Juniors we still have are going to have to step up.
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Hmmm.

Auburn
Broome - transferred from Morehead St a couple years ago
Kelly - in from Auburn this year
Baker - from SDSU couple years ago
Jones - FIU transfer

4/5 starters are transfers

Bama - Nelson, Sears, Youngblood and Omari all transfers 4/5
Iowa St - Gilbert from UNLV
Michigan - 3 core starters all transfers
Kentucky - entire starting lineup transfers
Houston - PG transfer Uzan just in from OU
Florida's 2G is a top transfer

There are transfers littered across every one of the top teams this year, so yeah you definitely win in the portal. What Hurley hasn't done much is push many of his home grown guys out to upgrade in the portal. We shall see what he does this year as nailing portal picks and proven players elsewhere seems a strong recipe for success. Then you got guys like Shaka & Painter who do very little of it and win, but feel like they never have teams with the requisite talent to win it all (Edey being the outlier).
 
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Recently we haven’t been getting Tarris in good positions. Been trying to play him like Samson in the PnR game when that’s not really his strength. I know he had a good game yesterday but I couldn’t watch, so maybe we posted him up more, but that’s what he needs. He moves bodies in the post.
 
RuffRuff said:
Hmmm.

Auburn
Broome - transferred from Morehead St a couple years ago
Kelly - in from Auburn this year
Baker - from SDSU couple years ago
Jones - FIU transfer

4/5 starters are transfers

Bama - Nelson, Sears, Youngblood and Omari all transfers 4/5
Iowa St - Gilbert from UNLV
Michigan - 3 core starters all transfers
Kentucky - entire starting lineup transfers
Houston - PG transfer Uzan just in from OU
Florida's 2G is a top transfer

There are transfers littered across every one of the top teams this year, so yeah you definitely win in the portal. What Hurley hasn't done much is push many of his home grown guys out to upgrade in the portal. We shall see what he does this year as nailing portal picks and proven players elsewhere seems a strong recipe for success. Then you got guys like Shaka & Painter who do very little of it and win, but feel like they never have teams with the requisite talent to win it all (Edey being the outlier).
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Yes, previous transfers mostly. It's different now than it was. I still think getting a sophomore transfer and having him two years is a good way to build. Thinking one transfer is going to come in and be great year one, that's rare, and I think was mostly 5th year guys like Cam.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, previous transfers mostly. It's different now than it was. I still think getting a sophomore transfer and having him two years is a good way to build. Thinking one transfer is going to come in and be great year one, that's rare, and I think was mostly 5th year guys like Cam.
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True, but you have to start somewhere at times, similar to TNewt, Hassan. There is a place for the sophomore, there is another place for the last year senior. Development around the country is dynamic when you're talking about 18-22 year olds as kids hit their stride at different rates. The hardest part is knowing when your own will, or if they will, against the field.

What is clear is that top teams this year are winning with a lot of transfers. There are coaches doing a better job than others at identifying and implementing transfers into their system. Self for instance, is on the wrong side of that diagram.

247's top 10 transers

 
Man, there were a lot of really good guards that we could have gone after instead of AM. But on the other hand we could have gotten a Johnell Davis. How did Tennessee manage to find Knecht and Lanier in back to back years?
 
aburks41 said:
Man, there were a lot of really good guards that we could have gone after instead of AM. But on the other hand we could have gotten a Johnell Davis. How did Tennessee manage to find Knecht and Lanier in back to back years?
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Good question on Barnes, dumb luck or awesome eval? As for Davis, an argument can be made that Cal has no idea how to use a transfer and Davis could have been successful elsewhere. His whole schtick has been raising burger boys to become NBA players.
 

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