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Message: [QUOTE="Sifaka, post: 3290230, member: 8516"] You almost have to be Brazilian (Brasileiro) to get comfortable with this stuff... but here are a few odds and ends to add to the confusion. (Uma verdadeira bagunça.)[I] [a veritible shambles/a genuine mess][/I] 1. She has first name, Kamilla. Many Brazilian celebrities, in sports, music, even politics, go by their first name only. That works, and [I]Kamilla[/I] shouldn't cause much further argument, even here. 2. Usually, but not always, the first of a string of last names in Brazil is the mother'surname, in this case [I]Soares.[/I] Some Brazilian sports journals call her [I]Kamilla Soares.[/I] 3. It's more common in Brazil to use the second family name, the patronymic or father's last name, [I]Cardoso[/I] in this case. 4. She has yet another "last name", [I] Silva[/I], perhaps the single most common last name in the country. It probably comes from the father's side of the family, but not necessarily. If your eyes haven't started doing counter-rotating loops yet, we shall now get into the weeds: a. Cardos[B]a [/B]is a fairly common last name in Brazil, Portugal, and various Spanish speaking countries. b. The same is true of Cardos[B]o[/B]. c. These are two distinct names. João Felipe Cardoso would not be confused with a person with the same first name and middle name but the last name Cardos[B]a.[/B] d. The foreign press is apt to ignore the distinction, and screw things up with fair frequency Here comes the fun part—if pronunciation is your idea of fun. In Portugal, the young lady's patronymic would sound something like [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]Car [B]doe[/B] zo[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)], with the emphasis on the second syllable. In Brazil, however, a final letter "o" has a [B]u[/B] sound, like the double o in [B]'boom'. [/B] Hence, in Brazilian Portuguese, it's Car [B]doe [/B]zu. Oh! The letter "r" is rhotic, or pronounced when it's in the middle of a word, so no British or Bostonian [I]cahh. [/I]Nope, it is car with a spoken r. When the letter r comes at the beginning of a Brazilian word, all bets are off, as it's pronounced as if it were an American English h. Thus [I]rápido[/I] (rapid, speedy, fast) in São Paulo sounds like [B]Hah[/B] pee doo. For a final indignity to your tired eyes and ears, in Portugal it's [B]Rap [/B]pee dough. So it is entirely up to you. All of the following are valid somewhere, at least after sunset. Kamilla Kamilla Cardoso[/COLOR] Kamilla Soares Kamilla Soares Cardoso Kamilla Soares Cardoso Silva. Invalid, but in use in some quarters: Kamilla Silva Kamilla Cardos[B]a[/B] [/QUOTE]

Verification: First name of men's bb coach