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Message: [QUOTE="Deleted at users request, post: 4667342"] I’m not old enough for Donny but the rest are terrible examples. Marcus Williams was averaging 4 assists a game his freshman year in 14 minutes on a championship team before being suspended for academic reasons. If you think Jeff Adrien wasn’t a big contributor to 2006 then you just have a bad memory there. He was a soldier from day 1 and first off the bench for Boone and Hilton. He was over ready to play. These examples are going to be hard to find because there almost are none. This board has created this myth based on just 2021. [/QUOTE]