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Message: [QUOTE="Blueconn, post: 2662372, member: 5095"] Which is 100% wrong. Morgan and Ashley Valley would be quick to point out that Vermont* was an independent republic long before Texas (1777 vs. 1836) and for a longer time (14 years vs. 9 years). Come York or come Hampshire, come traitors or knaves, If ye rule o’er our land ye shall rule o’er our graves; Our vow is recorded-our banner unfurled, In the name of Vermont we defy all the world ! -John Greenleaf Whittier *And Husky fans should always remind Longhorn fans that Vermont was initially named New [I]Connecticut. [/I]And for good measure throw in the fact that Ethan Allen and his brothers, Seth Warner, Remember Baker, and most other early leaders of Vermont came from the Land of Steady Habits. Finish off the conversation by mentioning that Vermont prohibited slavery in its very first constitution; years before any other American colony/state. [/QUOTE]