BY25 poll #3: Ballots due Monday (Dec. 21) at 11a ET

[Plebe]

The 3rd biweekly edition of the 2020-21 Boneyard Top 25 poll is approaching.

Ballots are due to me, via private message, by 11:00 a.m. ET on Monday, Dec. 21. (If you don't know how to send a PM, let me know in this thread and I will PM you first.) Ballots should reflect all games played through Sunday, Dec. 20.

Two important notes, in view of issues we experienced in the last poll:

• A note about early ballots. Several ballots were submitted early last week, but only one of them complied with the rule on addressing contingency scenarios. Early ballots (before all poll-relevant games have been decided on Sunday) are not acceptable unless accompanied by contingency scenarios in the event of any potentially ballot-impacting upsets.
  
  All ballots need to reflect the same body of work, i.e., all games played through Sunday. If it's too early on Sunday to realistically address all the contingencies — or good lord, if it's not even Sunday yet — there's little point in submitting your ballot. Unlike in other kinds of elections, there is such a thing as voting too early in this poll. Last time I had to disqualify a ballot that had been submitted on Saturday because the voter never got back to me with an updated ballot.
  
  
• A note about repeat votes. We also had multiple ballots in which the same team was listed twice. This is an error all too easy to make but none too easy to detect. And it creates a bit of chaos because I have to request a correction and hope the offending voter responds timely.
  
  To help prevent this, here's a pro tip: When you think you have your final rankings, copy them into Word or Excel or a similar program, and then sort the team names alphabetically. This should make it readily apparent if any team is listed twice. (if you need assistance on how to copy and paste, or on how to alphabetize a list, let me know in a PM and I can help.)

A few more reminders:

• Full ballots (of 25 teams) are strongly encouraged; short ballots (of at least 10 teams) are accepted.
• No ties are allowed on a ballot. Each team on the ballot must have a unique ranking.
• And it bears repeating: All voters are welcome regardless of fan base affiliation. The only requirement is to have a Boneyard account. Also, there is no requirement to have participated in previous polls.

 

[Plebe]

As an aid to voters, the results for BY25 teams since the most recent poll of Dec. 7 are shown below, along with the games still to be played this weekend. (If you see any mistakes or omissions, please let me know and I will correct.)

Team (points) <#1>	Wins	Losses	Dec. 18-20 games
1. Stanford (681) <15>	at Cal, 83-38 at Pacific, 104-61	--	at USC
2. Louisville (676) <12>	at Duke, 73-49	--	--
3. NC State (641) <1>	Elon, 76-47 at Boston College, 75-69 Wake Forest, 79-65	--	Miami
4. UConn (598) <1>	UMass Lowell, 79-23 at Seton Hall, 92-65 Creighton, 80-47	--	Xavier
5. South Carolina (588)	Temple, 103-41	--	--
6. Oregon (544) <1>	at #16 Oregon St, 79-59	--	at Washington
7. Arizona (516)	Arizona St, 65-37	--	at Colorado at Utah
8. Baylor (472)	at W. Virginia, 65-45 Texas Tech, 91-45 Southern, 86-52	--	Northwestern St McNeese
9. Kentucky (436)	Marshall, 79-45 Samford, 88-54	at DePaul, 82-86	Wofford
10. Texas A&M (414)	at Little Rock, 79-56 Abilene Christian, 77-59 Sam Houston St, 99-69	--	Rice
11. UCLA (395)	UCSB, 102-45 at USC, 73-52	--	Cal
12. Arkansas (380)	at SMU, 79-47 C. Arkansas, 105-58	--	at Little Rock
13. Maryland (327)	at Rutgers, 91-87	--	--
14. Mississippi St (305)	Troy, 103-76	--	Southern C. Arkansas
15. Indiana (244)	--	Tennessee, 58-66	Nebraska
16. Oregon St (236)	--	Utah, 79-85 #6 Oregon St, 59-79	at Washington St
17. South Dakota St (177)	Drake, 87-73	at Kansas St, 53-62 at N. Iowa, 48-65	at #24 Missouri St
18. Northwestern (171)	E. Illinois, 93-57 Minnesota, 80-51 at Purdue, 70-54	--	--
19. Syracuse (155)	at Miami, 69-58	at N. Carolina, 68-92	--
20. Michigan (150)	Butler, 93-54	--	at Illinois
21. Ohio St (136)	Miami (OH), 104-65	--	--
22. South Florida (123)	Stetson, 85-43 at Memphis, 65-58	--	--
23. Texas (88)	Idaho, 73-48	--	Drake
24. Missouri St (86)	Lincoln (MO) (D2), 100-38 at Missouri, 72-58	--	S. Dakota St
25. Gonzaga (67)	at Wyoming, 89-50 Montana, 58-51	--	--
RV. North Carolina (58)	#19 Syracuse, 92-68	at Wake Forest, 54-57 at Miami, 63-67	Wake Forest
RV. Iowa (47)	Iowa St, 82-80	at. Michigan St, 82-86	--
RV. Iowa St (41)	N. Dakota St, 85-64 Northern Iowa, 67-61	at Iowa, 80-82	Kansas St
RV. Arizona St (37)	San Diego, 64-55	at #7 Arizona, 37-65	at Utah at Colorado
RV. West Virginia (34)	James Madison, 85-54	#8 Baylor, 45-65	at Oklahoma St Ohio
RV. DePaul (32)	Loyola Chicago, 76-67 #9 Kentucky, 86-82	--	Georgetown
RV. South Dakota (32)	at Wichita St, 62-54 at Bradley, 84-68	--	at Oklahoma
RV. Florida St (14)	Virginia, 69-51	at Clemson, 69-72	Pitt
RV. Drake (8)	--	at S. Dakota St, 73-87	at #23 Texas
RV. Duke (7)	--	#2 Louisville, 49-73	--
RV. Clemson (6)	at Virginia, 71-55 Florida St, 72-69	at Pitt, 71-80	Notre Dame
RV. Ohio (5)	N. Illinois, 77-67	at Kent St, 80-84	at W. Virginia

 

[Bigboote]

Looks like I need to get another dart board.

Thanks as always for your efforts, Plebe. I always enjoy putting a ballot together.

 

[Plebe]

Updating the results table to reflect games through last night:

Team (points) <#1>	Wins	Losses	Dec. 20 games
1. Stanford (681) <15>	at Cal, 83-38 at Pacific, 104-61 at USC, 80-60	--	--
2. Louisville (676) <12>	at Duke, 73-49	--	--
3. NC State (641) <1>	Elon, 76-47 at Boston College, 75-69 Wake Forest, 79-65	--	Miami
4. UConn (598) <1>	UMass Lowell, 79-23 at Seton Hall, 92-65 Creighton, 80-47 Xavier, 106-59	--	--
5. South Carolina (588)	Temple, 103-41	--	--
6. Oregon (544) <1>	at #16 Oregon St, 79-59 at Washington, 73-48`	--	at Washington
7. Arizona (516)	Arizona St, 65-37 at Colorado, 62-59	--	at Utah
8. Baylor (472)	at W. Virginia, 65-45 Texas Tech, 91-45 Southern, 86-52 Northwestern St, 136-43 McNeese, 117-24	--	--
9. Kentucky (436)	Marshall, 79-45 Samford, 88-54 Wofford, 98-37	at DePaul, 82-86	--
10. Texas A&M (414)	at Little Rock, 79-56 Abilene Christian, 77-59 Sam Houston St, 99-69	--	Rice
11. UCLA (395)	UCSB, 102-45 at USC, 73-52 Cal, 71-37	--	--
12. Arkansas (380)	at SMU, 79-47 C. Arkansas, 105-58 at Little Rock, 80-70	--	--
13. Maryland (327)	at Rutgers, 91-87 James Madison, 101-59	--	--
14. Mississippi St (305)	Troy, 103-76 Southern, 79-55	--	C. Arkansas
15. Indiana (244)	--	Tennessee, 58-66	Nebraska
16. Oregon St (236)	--	Utah, 79-85 #6 Oregon, 59-79 at Washington St, 55-61	--
17. South Dakota St (177)	Drake, 87-73 at #24 Missouri St, 60-52	at Kansas St, 53-62 at N. Iowa, 48-65	--
18. Northwestern (171)	E. Illinois, 93-57 Minnesota, 80-51 at Purdue, 70-54	--	--
19. Syracuse (155)	at Miami, 69-58	at N. Carolina, 68-92	--
20. Michigan (150)	Butler, 93-54	--	at Illinois
21. Ohio St (136)	Miami (OH), 104-65	--	--
22. South Florida (123)	Stetson, 85-43 at Memphis, 65-58	--	--
23. Texas (88)	Idaho, 73-48 Drake, 101-80	--	--
24. Missouri St (86)	Lincoln (MO) (D2), 100-38 at Missouri, 72-58	#17 S. Dakota St, 52-60	--
25. Gonzaga (67)	at Wyoming, 89-50 Montana, 58-51	--	--
RV. North Carolina (58)	#19 Syracuse, 92-68	at Wake Forest, 54-57 at Miami, 63-67	Wake Forest
RV. Iowa (47)	Iowa St, 82-80	at. Michigan St, 82-86	--
RV. Iowa St (41)	N. Dakota St, 85-64 Northern Iowa, 67-61 Kansas St, 91-69	at Iowa, 80-82	--
RV. Arizona St (37)	San Diego, 64-55 Utah, 56-48	at #7 Arizona, 37-65	at Colorado
RV. West Virginia (34)	James Madison, 85-54	#8 Baylor, 45-65 at Oklahoma St, 73-78	--
RV. DePaul (32)	Loyola Chicago, 76-67 #9 Kentucky, 86-82 Georgetown, 72-54	--	--
RV. South Dakota (32)	at Wichita St, 62-54 at Bradley, 84-68	--	at Oklahoma
RV. Florida St (14)	Virginia, 69-51	at Clemson, 69-72	Pitt
RV. Drake (8)	--	at S. Dakota St, 73-87 at #23 Texas, 80-1-1	--
RV. Duke (7)	--	#2 Louisville, 49-73	--
RV. Clemson (6)	at Virginia, 71-55 Florida St, 72-69	at Pitt, 71-80	Notre Dame
RV. Ohio (5)	N. Illinois, 77-67	at Kent St, 80-84	--

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[Dokey]

Polls at this point don’t really reflect reality. Take No. 7 Arizona, a vastly overrated team. They escaped at Colorado with a 3 point victory in a game where they were outplayed for 95% of the game and had the lead for only three or four minutes, winning only because Colorado missed 11 free throws.

 

[j66kicker]

Polls at this point don’t really reflect reality. Take No. 7 Arizona, a vastly overrated team. They escaped at Colorado with a 3 point victory in a game where they were outplayed for 95% of the game and had the lead for only three or four minutes, winning only because Colorado missed 11 free throws.

Arizona might be overrated, but they HAVE beaten everyone they’ve played, including UCLA (and Utah today). Who do you move ahead of them?

 

[triaddukefan]

gonna be a tough one

 

[Plebe]

Finalizing the results table to reflect Sunday's results:

Team (points) <#1>	Wins	Losses
1. Stanford (681) <15>	at Cal, 83-38 at Pacific, 104-61 at USC, 80-60	--
2. Louisville (676) <12>	at Duke, 73-49	--
3. NC State (641) <1>	Elon, 76-47 at Boston College, 75-69 Wake Forest, 79-65 Miami, 78-47	--
4. UConn (598) <1>	UMass Lowell, 79-23 at Seton Hall, 92-65 Creighton, 80-47 Xavier, 106-59	--
5. South Carolina (588)	Temple, 103-41	--
6. Oregon (544) <1>	at #16 Oregon St, 79-59 at Washington, 73-48`	--
7. Arizona (516)	Arizona St, 65-37 at Colorado, 62-59 at Utah, 77-60	--
8. Baylor (472)	at W. Virginia, 65-45 Texas Tech, 91-45 Southern, 86-52 Northwestern St, 136-43 McNeese, 117-24	--
9. Kentucky (436)	Marshall, 79-45 Samford, 88-54 Wofford, 98-37	at DePaul, 82-86
10. Texas A&M (414)	at Little Rock, 79-56 Abilene Christian, 77-59 Sam Houston St, 99-69 Rice, 57-53	--
11. UCLA (395)	UCSB, 102-45 at USC, 73-52 Cal, 71-37	--
12. Arkansas (380)	at SMU, 79-47 C. Arkansas, 105-58 at Little Rock, 80-70	--
13. Maryland (327)	at Rutgers, 91-87 James Madison, 101-59	--
14. Mississippi St (305)	Troy, 103-76 Southern, 79-55 C. Arkansas, 72-49	--
15. Indiana (244)	Nebraska, 81-45	Tennessee, 58-66
16. Oregon St (236)	--	Utah, 79-85 #6 Oregon, 59-79 at Washington St, 55-61
17. South Dakota St (177)	Drake, 87-73 at #24 Missouri St, 60-52	at Kansas St, 53-62 at N. Iowa, 48-65
18. Northwestern (171)	E. Illinois, 93-57 Minnesota, 80-51 at Purdue, 70-54	--
19. Syracuse (155)	at Miami, 69-58	at N. Carolina, 68-92
20. Michigan (150)	Butler, 93-54	--
21. Ohio St (136)	Miami (OH), 104-65	--
22. South Florida (123)	Stetson, 85-43 at Memphis, 65-58	--
23. Texas (88)	Idaho, 73-48 Drake, 101-80	--
24. Missouri St (86)	Lincoln (MO) (D2), 100-38 at Missouri, 72-58	#17 S. Dakota St, 52-60
25. Gonzaga (67)	at Wyoming, 89-50 Montana, 58-51	--
RV. North Carolina (58)	#19 Syracuse, 92-68 Wake Forest, 77-74 OT	at Wake Forest, 54-57 at Miami, 63-67
RV. Iowa (47)	Iowa St, 82-80	at. Michigan St, 82-86
RV. Iowa St (41)	N. Dakota St, 85-64 Northern Iowa, 67-61 Kansas St, 91-69	at Iowa, 80-82
RV. Arizona St (37)	San Diego, 64-55 Utah, 56-48	at #7 Arizona, 37-65
RV. West Virginia (34)	James Madison, 85-54	#8 Baylor, 45-65 at Oklahoma St, 73-78
RV. DePaul (32)	Loyola Chicago, 76-67 #9 Kentucky, 86-82 Georgetown, 72-54	--
RV. South Dakota (32)	at Wichita St, 62-54 at Bradley, 84-68	at Oklahoma, 73-80
RV. Florida St (14)	Virginia, 69-51 Pitt, 67-53	at Clemson, 69-72
RV. Drake (8)	--	at S. Dakota St, 73-87 at #23 Texas, 80-1-1
RV. Duke (7)	--	#2 Louisville, 49-73
RV. Clemson (6)	at Virginia, 71-55 Florida St, 72-69 Notre Dame, 78-55	at Pitt, 71-80
RV. Ohio (5)	N. Illinois, 77-67	at Kent St, 80-84

gonna be a tough one

Lots of teams in the bottom half have fumbled the ball.

 

[Dokey]

Arizona might be overrated, but they HAVE beaten everyone they’ve played, including UCLA (and Utah today). Who do you move ahead of them?

Baylor, Miss State, Maryland. Let’s see how they play against Oregon and Stanford. Young Colorado isn’t as bad as the record indicates and have two of PAC-12’s future best in frosh (Formann) and sophomore (Sherrod) but they aren’t there yet. UConn would have difficulty handling those two based on that Xavier girl but still would run away. Last year it took a miracle shot and a bonehead play to keep Colorado from sweeping Stanford. Arizona was simply out played, except for Macdonald. I would guess they will end up at the end around 15th.

 

[j66kicker]

Baylor, Miss State, Maryland. Let’s see how they play against Oregon and Stanford. Young Colorado isn’t as bad as the record indicates and have two of PAC-12’s future best in frosh (Formann) and sophomore (Sherrod) but they aren’t there yet. UConn would have difficulty handling those two based on that Xavier girl but still would run away. Last year it took a miracle shot and a bonehead play to keep Colorado from sweeping Stanford. Arizona was simply out played, except for Macdonald. I would guess they will end up at the end around 15th.

I guess I'm going with, "You are what your record says you are." Also going with NOW, not "future best" or "Last year."

"except for Macdonald"???? But they DID have McDonald. And they STILL have McDonald. Your eye test is totally biased. Just gimme the facts.

BTW on my ballot I do have AZ (#8) below Baylor (#7), Oregon (#6) and Stanford (#1). Don't agree on Miss. State. Haven't seen Maryland play.

 

[Plebe]

Ballots are due in 2 hours.

Lots of folks have voted, but I'm still hoping to receive ballots from quite a few who voted in the first two polls. You can do it! I believe in you!

 

[mbr33ct]

I wonder if our Oregon State fans are still voting?

 

[DefenseBB]

I guess I'm going with, "You are what your record says you are." Also going with NOW, not "future best" or "Last year."

Oh man, I need to stop the balloting as I left Vandy off my ballot, who at 4-1 must be really good!

I guess this post also answers my question of "What will Marlene Stollings be doing while she's unemployed"...posting on the BY...is the answer...