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Here. You can see it three times, the last in slow motion.



What's interesting to me is that Geno didn't say a word to her on the sidelines following the play. He has repeatedly emphasized that he wants her to play tougher and be more aggressive. She did on that play, and he seemed fine with the result.
 
Well, for my money, Stewie to Mo to Lou in the last minute of the 1st quarter was priceless!
The back over the head from Moriah (ala DT) was worth the admission---I watch Uconn games to the bitter ends--and some are very bitter. The over fouling and fouling on every shot attempt was frustrating to watch. If you put yourself in the coaches place (not Geno) what was the benefit of that approach---?? The score was already set, did this give them a "moral" victory?? NO! Geno did not look pleased with that either..
 
She's more comfortable now. The game has slowed down for her, and NOW.....she knows she can play at this level.
So now, all she has to do is paly, and let the game come to her. Early on, she was thinking too much, trying her best not to make any mistakes.
Butler has been playing Division 1 (Big East AAC) for nearly 2 years now (the Practice time with the team counts)--Geno gave her a huge trust and comment---knock some one on their A---. She's been strutting ever since. Early on she was trying to read Geno's mind--is this what he wants? If not is this what he wants? --when that goes--the game comes. Geno's had new players (for nearly 30 year) looking at the bench for approval--and he hates it.. Play--just play the game. When confidence comes the bench looking stops..
 
I don't understand the call on Butler. Was it a technical or a flagrant foul? I thought that the announcer said technical. My understanding is that a technical foul cannot be called due to player contact during course of the game. If it was a flagrant, then Natalie should have been sent to the locker room.
Technical Flagrant foul ---stopped for speeding --was it 20 mph over the limit or 200 mph over the limit ---both speeding--
 
Technical Flagrant foul ---stopped for speeding --was it 20 mph over the limit or 200 mph over the limit ---both speeding--

Geez... The last time I was stopped for speeding it cost me $250 in court fees... My smooth-talking silk-suited lawyer got my offense plead down to "defective equipment". His fee for that... $500...

Natalie got off easy.

Me, not so much...
 
I've gone through the entire sequence frame by frame and the ECU player was clearly leaning on Butler as Butler turned to go up court. Certainly worth a foul, but frankly the ECU player deserved an academy award nomination for her flying leap backwards, but the fact that she gave Butler no room to even turn around appears designed to try and draw a foul.
 
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I've gone through the entire sequence frame by frame and the ECU player was clearly leaning on Butler as Butler turned to go up court. Certainly worth a foul, but frankly the ECU player deserved an academy award nomination for her flying leap backwards, but the fact that she gave Butler no room to even turn around appears designed to try and draw a foul.

You're correct. The girl was certainly getting right up in her after that play ended waiting for Nat to turn around.
 
Maybe that is what she said, but during the time when the refs were looking at the monitor to evaluate the play, I saw Big Nat smile, SMILE :p and that is what was needed. The girls need to be more nasty and mean when teams figure they can do what they want to and not play by the rules and expect OUR Huskies to do NOTHING about it - i.e. Kia getting her head ...; Gabby having her leg taken from under her; Mojo getting knocked around a few times; Stewie getting pounded on, etc. Show other teams that if you want to play that way then get a role player to do the same to their star player and send a message that two can play that game, but hopefully no one gets hurt because of it.
Remember John Ferguson of the Montreal Canadians? He handled that job with pleasure and he managed to score a few goals.
 
I've gone through the entire sequence frame by frame and the ECU player was clearly leaning on Butler as Butler turned to go up court. Certainly worth a foul, but frankly the ECU player deserved an academy award nomination for her flying leap backwards, but the fact that she gave Butler no room to even turn around appears designed to try and draw a foul.
That's the best description of the incident I've seen. The whole thing was overblown by the flop.
 
The ECU player was right where she should have been , in case there was a rebound. Natalie looked over her right shoulder, pivoted, and put a forearm into her. Natalie's a big, strong young lady.That was far from a flop. Before that, Natalie shoved her aside as the shot was being taken to get position for the rebound. So she showed a couple of aggressive moves. Good for her. But, she was fortunate that it was not a flagrant. BTW, if Kia Vaughn had done that to a UConn player, there would have been plenty of Husky Howling, both at Kia and C.Viv. Natalie got a high-five, and stayed in the game.
 
The ECU player was right where she should have been , in case there was a rebound. Natalie looked over her right shoulder, pivoted, and put a forearm into her. Natalie's a big, strong young lady.That was far from a flop. Before that, Natalie shoved her aside as the shot was being taken to get position for the rebound. So she showed a couple of aggressive moves. Good for her. But, she was fortunate that it was not a flagrant. BTW, if Kia Vaughn had done that to a UConn player, there would have been plenty of Husky Howling, both at Kia and C.Viv. Natalie got a high-five, and stayed in the game.
No question they were pushing around for rebounding position with Natalie being forceful, but the ECU player definitely continued moving in toward Natalie after the shot dropped through the net, and had her shoulder forward to 'nudge' Natalie. Natalie definitely saw it and countered with her own shoulder, not her forearm, though the forearm may have left her stomach area in the continuation of her bump. Absolutely no question it was a foul on Natalie. But flagrant? certainly it wasn't 'dangerous'.
 
No question they were pushing around for rebounding position with Natalie being forceful, but the ECU player definitely continued moving in toward Natalie after the shot dropped through the net, and had her shoulder forward to 'nudge' Natalie. Natalie definitely saw it and countered with her own shoulder, not her forearm, though the forearm may have left her stomach area in the continuation of her bump. Absolutely no question it was a foul on Natalie. But flagrant? certainly it wasn't 'dangerous'.

To be considered flagrant it doesn't have to be dangerous, just unnecessary contact. Sure looked unnecessary to me, and maybe why Breanna had a chat with her. One of the things that the officials are to consider is whether injury could occur, but obviously that's subjective on their part, and don't know if that's required to be considered flagrant. Chalk this up to an "eye of the beholder" thing. I did enjoy seeing Butler getting a bit emotional, though was surprised that Geno didn't take her out, even if just briefly. I think she can be a really good player. There is a seriousness and determination about her that I really like. Don't think we'll ever see her "mugging" at the camera or coloring her hair.
 
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The ECU player was right where she should have been , in case there was a rebound. Natalie looked over her right shoulder, pivoted, and put a forearm into her. Natalie's a big, strong young lady.That was far from a flop. Before that, Natalie shoved her aside as the shot was being taken to get position for the rebound. So she showed a couple of aggressive moves. Good for her. But, she was fortunate that it was not a flagrant. BTW, if Kia Vaughn had done that to a UConn player, there would have been plenty of Husky Howling, both at Kia and C.Viv. Natalie got a high-five, and stayed in the game.
Nowhere near as dangerous as Prince shoving Maya in the small of the back, leveling her on her tailbone - refresh my memory. Was that called a flagrant?
 
To be considered flagrant it doesn't have to be dangerous, just unnecessary contact. Sure looked unnecessary to me, and maybe why Breanna had a chat with her. One of the things that the officials are to consider is whether injury could occur, but obviously that's subjective on their part, and don't know if that's required to be considered flagrant. Chalk this up to an "eye of the beholder" thing. I did enjoy seeing Butler getting a bit emotional, though was surprised that Geno didn't take her out, even if just briefly. I think she can be a really good player. There is a seriousness and determination about her that I really like. Don't think we'll ever see her "mugging" at the camera or coloring her hair.
well, at least her hair isn't colored



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