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Breanna Stewart is indeed the greatest of all time

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She changes games in so many ways. Last night her stat line was 21 points, 16 rebounds and 5 blocks and that doesn't even tell the whole story. She clogs the passing lanes on D and makes the other teams very uncomfortable in terms of bringing the ball into the lane. You can say that Diana or Maya were the greatest, but Stewie will win 4 Most Outstanding Player awards at the Final Four and leave UConn as the greatest Women's college basketball player of all time. She is simply the best to ever set foot on the court.
 
Yes Miss Stewart left no doubt, she is the best.... She did it all last night, offense and not just shooting the ball, defense she is a monster. If she had not started the game cold, it would have been as perfect of a game as any one could have. I was in awe and so thankful she plays in a Huskies uniform. Thank you Stewie for the way you play the game.
 
Had the refs called the Louisville vs. Baylor game the way it should have been called, Baylor would have won. You can't encircle a player and impede her movement, which is what they did to Britney Griner. Fair is fair, and that came wasn't called fair. It's the one time I agree with Kim Mulkey.
 
Stewie is now the first player in WCBB DI history with at least 400 blocked shots (402) and 400 assists (410). OUTSTANDING!

And...the three seniors left the game with 20 points each, now the stat sheet has Stewie at 21. Apparently, she's even able to score after the game's over. MAGNIFICENT! :eek: :D :cool:
 
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Roundball fan said:
Yes Miss Stewart left no doubt, she is the best.... She did it all last night, offense and not just shooting the ball, defense she is a monster. If she had not started the game cold, it would have been as perfect of a game as any one could have. I was in awe and so thankful she plays in a Huskies uniform. Thank you Stewie for the way you play the game.
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When we're "down" she carries us until we've recovered. I really think she will not allow us to lose. That to me is the greatest ever if we win it all. If not, then one could argue Diana or Maya.
 
Whatever happens in the next two weeks, I completely agree. Diana was amazing and leading that team to the last two NCs in Uconn's first three peat was amazing, and she has gone on to a really remarkable professional career. Maya was amazing while at Uconn with her 2 NCs and complete game and will to win and she has had a remarkable professional career as well.
Breanna is amazing and whether she gets #4 of not, she has topped those two previous players in her Uconn accomplishments. Yes, she came in with a better class and Moriah and Morgan have helped her every step of the way, but she has the most complete game of them all - threatening on offense in more ways than they could because of her height and threatening on defense in more ways as well. To 'penalize' her for accomplishing 'more with more' is to equally detract from Geno's remarkable accomplishments because he too figured out how to do more with more. We will not let others say that Geno is only a great coach because he gets the best players, so why do people constantly say that kind of thing when it comes to player comparisons.
Banham scored a lot more points than Stewart on a terrible team - does that make her a better player because she had no one around her? Johnson has a lot more assists and a better A/TO ratio than Moriah on a team without Stewart and Tuck, does that make her a better PG? As fans we laugh at those suggestions, but when we compare Uconn players those kinds of suggestions are frequently made. 'Yeah, well, DT had to do it with Strother and Moore and Battle and Conlon, etc. so that is more impressive.' In a team game you are always reliant on teammates, but if you look at the individual player and what they personally are able to accomplish Stewart has blown the doors off of the Uconn record book already, on offense and on defense, scoring, rebounding, assisting, stealing, blocking, and leading her team to victory and intimidating the opponent. Geno is famous for saying 'we have DT and they don't' but he could also be saying this year 'we have Breanna and not only don't they have her, but no one has ever seen her like before.'

[Diana shot the three better and dished 200 more assists. Stewart has shot better from the field, scored more points, grabbed 500 more rebounds, blocked 200+ more shots, has more steals, a better assist/to ratio, and drawn more fouls and her teams have beaten ranked team more decisively and won more games and is the only team to meet an undefeated team in the NC in NCAA history.]
 
chrissaran said:
Had the refs called the Louisville vs. Baylor game the way it should have been called, Baylor would have won. You can't encircle a player and impede her movement, which is what they did to Britney Griner. Fair is fair, and that came wasn't called fair. It's the one time I agree with Kim Mulkey.
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Wrong thread? But in response - Kim spent that whole game yelling at the refs instead of coaching her team - the refs were consistent throughout allowing Baylor the same liberties in the second half when they finally decided to play the game, a little too late. When the game was being lost, Baylor never got out on the three point shooters as they rained in threes. And they never tried option B on offense when Griner was neutralized until they were in a huge hole in the second half. Was it a badly officiated game - oh, yes. One of hundreds every year in WCBB.
 
One of those debates that doesn't seem to have a wrong answer.
Reminds me of a series of lectures I gave about the "Fab Four" of the Rev era; Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Franklin. Started by asking who you'd most like to have dinner and evening's conversation with. Washington might intimidate you into spilling the soup. Jefferson would serve an exquisite meal and his conversation would sparkle. But when you left you'd be wondering if it was all something of a well-rehearsed show. Franklin would be delightful and genuine. But you'd probably have to deal with an unending stream of visitors constantly interrupting. Personally, I chose John Adams. The conversation would be easy and he'd talk about everything from ancient history and political philosophy to how to get the right amount of manure into his fields or the challenges of raising his kids. And he'd gossip openly about those other guys. Best of all, when it was time to leave Abigail might walk in and invite you to stay overnight.

When the season ends I hope the BY has a poll to get some consensus. Diana, Maya, or Stewie. No wrong answer.
 
The greatest of all time!? You can beat this horse to death and still come back for more.

Why am somewhat reluctant to give Stewie the "greatest of all time?" She is after all the most physically gifted and talented women's college player that I have ever seen and remarkably got better every year. I never saw Diana in college but I can only imagine how great she was at UConn. She is easily my favorite WNBA player. I started watching UConn during the Maya Moore era and she was the toughest player that I ever saw at the college level. Talk about will-to-win! As others noted, her teams were not the most talented but her teams don't win without her intensity.

My reluctance is in giving Stewie her due probably because her team were so talented, her unselfishness and the overemphasis on offense. It is too easy to focus on points. Stewie could easily have scored much more over the course of her career. Playing with a very talented team, she picked her moments offensively (certainly the NCAA tourney) but defensively she was a consistent stalwart who covers up a lot of miscues. She and MoJeff are defensive dynamic duo and the backbone of the team. Stewie intimidating and protecting the basket and MoJeff creating havoc in the backcourt. It has been a huge part of their success leading to a ton of easy points.
 
Stewie's three blocks in one offensive series last night reinforced, in my mind, the designation of GOAT. But as great as her defense was last night the best defensive play I've ever seen in women's college basketball occurred two years ago against Rutgers when the ball was stolen from Moriah at the top of the key, Stewie was at the baseline, she ran the length of the court and then blocked the shot at the basket. It still seems impossible.
 
TFintheMix said:
The greatest of all time!? You can beat this horse to death and still come back for more.

Why am somewhat reluctant to give Stewie the "greatest of all time?" She is after all the most physically gifted and talented women's college player that I have ever seen and remarkably got better every year. I never saw Diana in college but I can only imagine how great she was at UConn. She is easily my favorite WNBA player. I started watching UConn during the Maya Moore era and she was the toughest player that I ever saw at the college level. Talk about will-to-win! As others noted, her teams were not the most talented but her teams don't win without her intensity.

My reluctance is in giving Stewie her due probably because her team were so talented, her unselfishness and the overemphasis on offense. It is too easy to focus on points. Stewie could easily have scored much more over the course of her career. Playing with a very talented team, she picked her moments offensively (certainly the NCAA tourney) but defensively she was a consistent stalwart who covers up a lot of miscues. She and MoJeff are defensive dynamic duo and the backbone of the team. Stewie intimidating and protecting the basket and MoJeff creating havoc in the backcourt. It has been a huge part of their success leading to a ton of easy points.
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You don't have to imagine Dee's college play. Many of her games can be found on uconnhuskygames.com The right sidebar has a link to allow choosing other seasons. Unfortunately, the "I just wanted to hit something orange" game from 1/5/02 is missing :(
 
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chrissaran said:
Had the refs called the Louisville vs. Baylor game the way it should have been called, Baylor would have won. You can't encircle a player and impede her movement, which is what they did to Britney Griner. Fair is fair, and that came wasn't called fair. It's the one time I agree with Kim Mulkey.
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This is just an excuse. Baylor lost the game. Instead of pinning your star player where the other team knew she'd be - how about moving her around and make it much harder to man-handle her? It is much harder to man-handle a player outside the paint. She has a terrific mid-range game. And how about playing better defense? Baylor's defense got caught with their pants down and was way too slow to pull them up (offer a counter). If you couldn't stop it- then it wasn't good enough. Why couldn't Griner play a bit like Stewie instead of wait in the paint and put a potential game in the refs hands?
 
UcMiami said:
Whatever happens in the next two weeks, I completely agree. Diana was amazing and leading that team to the last two NCs in Uconn's first three peat was amazing, and she has gone on to a really remarkable professional career. Maya was amazing while at Uconn with her 2 NCs and complete game and will to win and she has had a remarkable professional career as well.
Breanna is amazing and whether she gets #4 of not, she has topped those two previous players in her Uconn accomplishments. Yes, she came in with a better class and Moriah and Morgan have helped her every step of the way, but she has the most complete game of them all - threatening on offense in more ways than they could because of her height and threatening on defense in more ways as well. To 'penalize' her for accomplishing 'more with more' is to equally detract from Geno's remarkable accomplishments because he too figured out how to do more with more. We will not let others say that Geno is only a great coach because he gets the best players, so why do people constantly say that kind of thing when it comes to player comparisons.
Banham scored a lot more points than Stewart on a terrible team - does that make her a better player because she had no one around her? Johnson has a lot more assists and a better A/TO ratio than Moriah on a team without Stewart and Tuck, does that make her a better PG? As fans we laugh at those suggestions, but when we compare Uconn players those kinds of suggestions are frequently made. 'Yeah, well, DT had to do it with Strother and Moore and Battle and Conlon, etc. so that is more impressive.' In a team game you are always reliant on teammates, but if you look at the individual player and what they personally are able to accomplish Stewart has blown the doors off of the Uconn record book already, on offense and on defense, scoring, rebounding, assisting, stealing, blocking, and leading her team to victory and intimidating the opponent. Geno is famous for saying 'we have DT and they don't' but he could also be saying this year 'we have Breanna and not only don't they have her, but no one has ever seen her like before.'

[Diana shot the three better and dished 200 more assists. Stewart has shot better from the field, scored more points, grabbed 500 more rebounds, blocked 200+ more shots, has more steals, a better assist/to ratio, and drawn more fouls and her teams have beaten ranked team more decisively and won more games and is the only team to meet an undefeated team in the NC in NCAA history.]
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Superb post UcMiami. You have written the definitive analysis of the GOAT question. It should be the final word ... but of course the chances of that are nil.
 
chrissaran said:
Had the refs called the Louisville vs. Baylor game the way it should have been called, Baylor would have won. You can't encircle a player and impede her movement, which is what they did to Britney Griner. Fair is fair, and that came wasn't called fair. It's the one time I agree with Kim Mulkey.
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You are correct- the refs let them mug BG in that game through out- and BG is not my favorite person. But what's right is right.
 
ballhawk said:
Stewie's three blocks in one offensive series last night reinforced, in my mind, the designation of GOAT. But as great as her defense was last night the best defensive play I've ever seen in women's college basketball occurred two years ago against Rutgers when the ball was stolen from Moriah at the top of the key, Stewie was at the baseline, she ran the length of the court and then blocked the shot at the basket. It still seems impossible.
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Mohegan Sun - final Big East Tmt w Rutgers I think---magical!
 
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