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Message: [QUOTE="housekeys, post: 4943206, member: 2379"] The problem with this strategy is that "taking it to" implies initiating the contact. Now, I am not an expert, but I have been told that refs will not blow the whistle if the offensive players are the ones initiating the contact, as long as the defensive players are in a proper defensive stance. This is why (I am guessing) Newton, for example, would drive and get no calls in the BE. The Illinois fans were cursing the refs for all the no calls against Clingan. Well, right strategy but it was not properly done, if what I said about the refs is true. IDK. [/QUOTE]