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Message: [QUOTE="Northbound, post: 4370995, member: 155"] He’s not a kid he’s a grown man (22 in a month or so) making $4.5M ir so this year- his scoring ability has never been in doubt its his ability to be a complete basketball player and his maturity that has been in doubt in and out of the organization. Everyone wants products of the program to do well, but that doesn’t mean not acknowledging flaws in their respective games Its not hate its looking at a player objectively - I always think the posters that can’t do that must be the parents i hear about from HS athletic directors and coaches. [/QUOTE]