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Message: [QUOTE="JeepCSC, post: 2279004, member: 3214"] I don't think I've waited in a line longer than 30 minutes in almost 20 years (save for the ride shutting down, looking at you Space). Fast passes and picking your spots helps in that regards, but there is an art to doing Disney well. I do think there is perhaps a point where a kid is too old to appreciate Disney World properly as a first time visitor. 12 in 1983 might have been that point. That was before Splash was built, and much of Fantasyland works best either as a tyke or with nostalgia glasses on, neither of which you'd have had at 12. Actually efficiency and nostalgia probably allowed me to go through my jaded teen years with DW largely unscathed in my mind. For me, cutting the parades, minimize shopping (you'll likely find it at the Village at any rate, so save your shopping until then), see characters at breakfasts and not the parks, study the map and know when to hit where, etc; experience only increases enjoyment for Disney as you maximize what works for you. All that said, there was a golden year or so around the implementation of the Fastpass where you could literally stick anything in the machines and get fastpass times. It was like the ultimate cheat code. I think I rode Splash Mountain about 4 times in a row under an hour or so. But it was not to last. [/QUOTE]