Boeheim At It Again

[Walker11]

Last year, JB infamously tried to dissuade Ennis and Grant from leaving early, saying that they were not ready. While this was true, it is never said by coaches publicly, as it can be interpreted as downplaying a players stock. Less than a month in, JB is already downplaying Chris McCollough's stock.

"I've talked to 10 pro scouts," Boeheim said. "Not one of them thought that Chris McCullough was a first-round pick. So who he's talking to? I have no idea. When you print that stuff, people read it. Parents read that."

"I'm 6-10, I'm playing against 6-3 guys, I think I should be able to get 14 points," Boeheim said. "I think. I think that should be something I can accomplish. Maybe I couldn't now. Maybe I could only get 10. Just let the kids play. Let them play."

The article reads like it was from The Onion. Boeheim is becoming a caricature of himself and is easier to root against by the day. It makes it all the better that 'Cuse will be thoroughly mediocre this year, and that McCullough will undoubtedly be a 1 and done.

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[B1GEast]

wow, how a coach do that to one of his own is unfortunate. His response should have been i'm not talking about anything hypothetical, just the season.

what a real d bag

 

[nomar]

I have zero problems with anything he's quoted as having said. He's right about Chad Ford.

 

[ctchamps]

I clicked this thread believing there would be another picture of that bugger picking boogers!

 

[Mano]

Gotta agree with Boeheim on that one. These kids get draft happy with all these lists and websites dedicated to the draft. I'm sure Boeheim must know his fair share of scouts and GM's that can give him decently accurate info on his guys. In the end he certainly wasn't lying about Ennis and Grant last year, even if he just seemed to be self servingly motivated.

As an aside, I grew up with the writer of this article, Chris Carlson, he who seems to be something of a fly in Jimmy B's ointment of late. I wonder if it has anything to do with him having grown up as one of the biggest Husky fans I knew as a kid/teenager?

 

[mauconnfan]

He's a but in this case he has a point. These self serving no-nothings writing articles on who's going to get drafted before they play 15 games are complete moron's!

 

[Fishy]

I can see Boeheim's point here - Chad Ford is plain dangerous.

If you read Chad Ford's articles, it's fairly clear that he's basically making s--- up.

There are rarely even anonymous quotes, just vague generalities like, "Scouts tell me...", "Scouts all think..."

I suspect if ESPN ever bothered to source check his work, he'd have nothing.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

The clock is ticking on the NCAA report. We'll see how anxious McCollough is to stay in college with no postseason.

 

[Walker11]

I will never defend Ford. He is clearly horrible at his job.

I just think JB looks bad talking about McCullough like this. The kid is going to leave this year, and is going to be a 1st round pick. The whole "I've talked to 10 GM's and none of them have him as a first rounder" talk is petty and is BS.

JB is clearly salty that Ennis and Grant left early, and instead of leading a great Syracuse team, they are stuck in the D League.

 

[Fishy]

If the point is that both Boeheim and Ford are douches, I can sign off on that.

 

[pj]

Boeheim's right. And JCC denigrated his players all the time -- to motivate them to work harder. "Couldn't guard a chair." Denigrating your player's NBA draft prospects probably isn't the right way to do it, but he was responding to the article, and if his player improves, I'm sure Boeheim would plump for him later.

But you have to wonder if Boeheim feels he only has a few years left and wants to get a championship or at least a few good years to top off his career. He seems a little more anxious about recruiting and retention than in the past.

 

[noeynox]

If i'm an opposing coach, those are the types of articles I show kids that are deciding between them and my team. Boeheim is nothing but self serving when he speaks like that in the media. Kid is averaging 15 pts on 60%, shooting as a freshman, he should not be thinking of the NBA he should continue to play like that for him at SU, and not get paid. Who was the kid at UNC that would have been drafted in lottery after his first or second year (McAdoo) instead stayed all four years and was drafted in the second round?

 

[amory]

Dude wants another ring before he calls it a career. He knows he can't do it if his kids keep leaving after freshman year. He ain't Cal.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I can see Boeheim's point here - Chad Ford is plain dangerous.

If you read Chad Ford's articles, it's fairly clear that he's basically making s--- up.

There are rarely even anonymous quotes, just vague generalities like, "Scouts tell me...", "Scouts all think..."

I suspect if ESPN ever bothered to source check his work, he'd have nothing.

If ESPN bother to source-check its "reporters" work, they'd lose about 70% of their staff. I remember emailing Jayson Stark when he'd made up a quote about some chump minor-league reliever the Yankees had traded that the guy was ready to be a lefty specialist in the majors right away, despite the fact that he wasn't left-handed. He changed the quote in his article to something marginally different. This is most of what Jeff Goodman does, too.

 

[willie99]

I think JC said that about Josh Boone, but he's the only one that I can recall.

I know K complained about some player who left early, saying that player ducked fuke, that's about as classless as I saw.

I find it funny when coaches take credit for putting the likes of Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis into the NBA, instead of accepting the fact that the system made them go to college for one year.

 

[CL82]

I think JC said that about Josh Boone, but he's the only one that I can recall.

I know K complained about some player who left early, saying that player ducked fuke, that's about as classless as I saw.

I find it funny when coaches take credit for putting the likes of Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis into the NBA, instead of accepting the fact that the system made them go to college for one year.

I believe it was Donyell, but the quote was aimed at improving him, not making him less marketable.

 

[breezy]

"He wore socks with the NBA logo while doing post-game interviews on Friday."

What an note-worthy indication of his draft intentions.

 

[willie99]

I believe it was Donyell, but the quote was aimed at improving him, not making him less marketable.

What I'm talking happened after the season but before the draft. He was complaining about Boone getting bad advise and not listening to him.

When talking about motivation, the quote I would cite is his tearing up of Chaz V late December / early January 04/05. "He's the most overrated player I ever coached. He thinks he going to be playing professional basketball, he couldn't be a professional in Timbuktu. He's complaining about his minutes now, just wait until his minutes get cut"

Charlie averaged a double double down the stretch and left the # 7 overall.

 

[Pudge]

I will go to a different level:

It has always been the Syracuse fan base (which we read far less now than ever) that has promoted the NBA applications of their Football and Basketball athletes. You simply do not have that over here ... and we have a far better record in both sports. I don't like the whole speculative aura of Pro's on our college team; let us enjoy these moments with the development of our athletes. That's the fun of this. You see Syracuse fans (and YES - I can name several) that are always plugging their kids into the pro league; this is followed/parallel to what you find with the Syracuse newspaper & their radio (which, actually, has sent several guys to bigger radio assignments).

I think Boeheim is caught in the trap. His kids are top 20-30 ranking. They are adored by Townies. Get special treatment all over the 315. (and get told they are big in NYC) And, they then think the NBA is immediate. I think WE have a Program - now with Kevin Ollie - that the coach can actually look the kid in the eye and say: "this is what your NBA life is going to be".

 

[Mr. Conehead]

Meanwhile, down in some small city called Lexington, there is a coach there who actively sells his recruits of the NBA draft attracting players who are less interested in getting an education and working hard for national championships than they are for the immediate, financial gratification of the NBA draft in 1 year and he has an annual base salary of $5.2 million base while Boeheim receives $1.8 million and Coach Ollie makes $1.3.

 

[Pudge]

Apparently you missed the MEMORANDUM/Public Release:

Kevin Ollie has a new five year contract. The Average over that period is about $2.68m. And, I bet Boeheim received more than you quoted. And, BASE? Don't pay attention to the stinking BASE.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I looked it up recently, and Boeheim's salary is surprisingly low.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Of course Boeheim has a point; but it's not something you bring up, let alone to national media.

I honestly think Boeheim is slowly developing some dementia. His behavior is getting weirder and weirder by the year.

 

[champs99and04]

I don't like Boeheim, but there's a small part of him - the old-school, unfiltered straight-shooter - that's actually somewhat endearing. He's one of those guys whose absolutely allergic to change. If he could teleport back to the 80's and reignite those Syracuse-Georgetown rivalries, he would. He hates the fact that all of these kids leave early, he hates AAU basketball and shoe companies, he hates conference alignment...his entire shtick is somewhat entertaining and it isn't completely without validity. He'll be dragged out of this sport kicking and screaming.

 

[tentoes4rings]

I think JC said that about Josh Boone, but he's the only one that I can recall.

I know K complained about some player who left early, saying that player ducked fuke, that's about as classless as I saw.

I find it funny when coaches take credit for putting the likes of Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis into the NBA, instead of accepting the fact that the system made them go to college for one year.

I'm pretty sure you're referring to William Avery, who decided to leave early after we beat them in 99.

I remember major rumors about recruiting issues with him, so maybe K is lucky he left when he did so he didn't F up his program even further.