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Message: [QUOTE="Spaceman213J, post: 3801093, member: 6477"] During Ollie's first 2 years, they played great defense. A lot had to do with Napier who was a pest the second he stepped on the floor. I'm just talking about when he started to get "his" players into the program. AG's injuries didn't help, but in general the closeouts seem crisper and the way the play the pick and roll is much better under Hurley. Some may disagree, but if you look at Vital the last few years and now Polley & Whaley, I'd say there is a big difference. Whaley has gotten pretty good at hedging hard and being able to recover. I still think Ollie is a pretty good coach, but I just think Hurley & staff are much better at developing a player and team defensively. [/QUOTE]