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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 4082052, member: 7492"] I had initially had Joe up higher within the "Good" category but frankly his Big 10 results, while good last year have been mediocre. Look at his conference record. He has to show sustained success across multiple classes of players to elevate to the next level. While he had GREAT success at GW, the simple fact is the in-roads at NW have taken quite a bit of time. Heck, he's not even in the Preseason Top 5 in the conference this year. I am rooting for him but for me, he is only a "Good" coach and not in that next category at all. [/QUOTE]