BIG merger with Big East

[Zissou]

The Basketball forum is dabbling in CR, so reposting here.


The combined conferences have non-football members like the oBE. UConn becomes a football member and Kansas is brought in as a football member.

ND is committed to join the ACC if it joins any conference as a full member, but instead it joins the BIG as an affiliate member and keeps football independent, or partially Indy as it does currently with the ACC.

Basketball
Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Marquette, DePaul, Northwestern

Illinois, Indiana, Butler, Purdue, Xavier, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, ND

UConn, Nova, Georgetown, St Johns, Providence, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State

Football
East - Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, and UConn

West - Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin and Kansas.

why? Money. Basketball super conference, without much change to football.

Non-rev sports can be regionalized like the basketball divisions to reduce travel and costs, with championships bringing the entire conference together.

 

[Zissou]

Or go pod system for football…

Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Northwestern, Indiana

Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Kansas.

Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Nova, and UConn

 

[don356]

This is so stupid the thread should be closed. The Big 10 doesn't need it. EOS

 

[Zissou]

This is so stupid the thread should be closed. The Big 10 doesn't need it. EOS

It’s the boneyard CR forum!

 

[Slasher]

Like I said in the other thread, why the hell would Michigan State and Ohio State, etc. agree to a 27 team basketball conference where they would only play at most 19 of the 26 teams? If the Big East were an overwhelming #1 conference in gigantic markets with the undoubtable most followed programs it still wouldn't make sense.

 

[Zissou]

Like I said in the other thread, why the hell would Michigan State and Ohio State, etc. agree to a 27 team basketball conference where they would only play at most 19 of the 26 teams? If the Big East were an overwhelming #1 conference in gigantic markets with the undoubtable most followed programs it still wouldn't make sense.

It’s not my rumor and I don’t know if it has any legs, but after the initial shock of the idea, I can see some merit.

The Big East is the number 1 basketball conference in the largest markets.

The BIG wants East Coast market exposure. They want it so much that they brought in Rutgers. This idea gains that market exposure through basketball instead of football.

Why would Mich State and Ohio State agree? They keep the biggest rivalries in their pod, and the basketball conference becomes a super conference. Nova, UConn, and Kansas are more prominent than anything in the BIG. This is a step up.

 

[Kolumbo]

The Basketball forum is dabbling in CR, so reposting here.


The combined conferences have non-football members like the oBE. UConn becomes a football member and Kansas is brought in as a football member.

ND is committed to join the ACC if it joins any conference as a full member, but instead it joins the BIG as an affiliate member and keeps football independent, or partially Indy as it does currently with the ACC.

Basketball
Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Marquette, DePaul, Northwestern

Illinois, Indiana, Butler, Purdue, Xavier, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, ND

UConn, Nova, Georgetown, St Johns, Providence, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State

Football
East - Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, and UConn

West - Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin and Kansas.

why? Money. Basketball super conference, without much change to football.

Non-rev sports can be regionalized like the basketball divisions to reduce travel and costs, with championships bringing the entire conference together.

As long as CR has a pulse, and it is beating steadily, no ideas are off the table. I'm in. Make it so and you win the Lifetime Bone Award. Yes the B1G is fine as is but who knows how big the SEC is going to go. Many more basketball programs than football so it makes sense that the best conference would have more basketball programs. Capital Idea!

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I don’t see a formal merger but a partnership is certainly doable .
Especially something brokered for media.
The B1G can claim 5 more NC in the last. 20 years 4 of the last 10. Plus a bunch in Women’s BB .

 

[Kolumbo]

And the B1G could do away with the antiquated AAU "requirement." Plenty of exceptional educational institutions in the Big East, and outside, which aren't privy to the AAU club.

 

[Dooooooomed]

After maxing out football revenues, the autonomous conferences are gonna go after basketball/March Madness. It's only a matter of time. Not a bad idea for the Big Ten to make a preemptive strike and lock down the North.

 

[gampelcrazies]

I can see this happening if the football power 5s breakaway from the NCAA. They would want the teams to help make their own NCAA tournament.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

This is so stupid the thread should be closed. The Big 10 doesn't need it. EOS

The B1G can claim 5 NC in the last 20 years 4 in the last 10 . add that to their 1 , 20 years ago. Now that I have your attention.
They can really marginalize the ACC northern experiment. A weakened ACC means they can grab
desirable football programs down the road.
Im not a fan of super conferences but to not understand a strategic importance’s for the future is short sighted even is this is only a partnership vs a formal merger.
The two biggest obstacles to this are the B1G currently is without vision and the Big East presidents get nauseous at the mention of football. $$ do get their attention and settle their stomachs.
No Vision ie.
The B1G should have grabbed Texas and hold their nose and taken Oklahoma ,if Kansas wasn’t acceptable to both parties.
Have the guts to tell Nebraska what the SEC told A&M shut up and leave if you don’t like it. Adding UT
is a game changer in the football wars long term. It also checks all the B1G boxes but most importantly amplifies recruiting possibilities. If this was real war Its close to being routed. A left flank attack might turn the tide or at least get a draw .

 

[Zissou]

The B1G can claim 5 NC in the last 20 years

7 in the last 20 and 8 this century

 

[Salty Dog]

The Basketball forum is dabbling in CR, so reposting here.


The combined conferences have non-football members like the oBE. UConn becomes a football member and Kansas is brought in as a football member.

ND is committed to join the ACC if it joins any conference as a full member, but instead it joins the BIG as an affiliate member and keeps football independent, or partially Indy as it does currently with the ACC.

Basketball
Kansas, Nebraska, Creighton, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Marquette, DePaul, Northwestern

Illinois, Indiana, Butler, Purdue, Xavier, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, ND

UConn, Nova, Georgetown, St Johns, Providence, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State

Football
East - Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, and UConn

West - Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin and Kansas.

why? Money. Basketball super conference, without much change to football.

Non-rev sports can be regionalized like the basketball divisions to reduce travel and costs, with championships bringing the entire conference together.

What if it was more of a basketball only arrangement. The schools come together during the season and form the 3 divisions you listed above. All other sports stay in their respective conferences, so in a way the Big East and BIG continue to exist separately. Kansas joins the Big East (or BIG), and UConn and them could hopefully land 4 football games or so a year with the BIG. Notre Dame joins the Big East as well for all other sports, maintains football independence, and could also have a scheduling agreement in football with the BIG if they so desired. A crazy idea but it would be a basketball super conference, and wouldn't hurt the BIG in football. Additionally the divisions all make geographic sense and would make the fanbases happy.

 

[Zissou]

What if it was more of a basketball only arrangement. The schools come together during the season and form the 3 divisions you listed above. All other sports stay in their respective conferences, so in a way the Big East and BIG continue to exist separately. Kansas joins the Big East (or BIG), and UConn and them could hopefully land 4 football games or so a year with the BIG. Notre Dame joins the Big East as well for all other sports, maintains football independence, and could also have a scheduling agreement in football with the BIG if they so desired. A crazy idea but it would be a basketball super conference, and wouldn't hurt the BIG in football. Additionally the divisions all make geographic sense and would make the fanbases happy.

You could have a scheduling alliance, but current rules govern conference championships so without combining we’d miss key benefits sought in the arrangement. The MSG conference championship in NYC is a prime target.

Kansas would need a football share to move.

Also the regionalization offered the basketball should also be an attractive model for non-rev sports.

The conference could finally shed the “10” in its name. “The Big Athletic League”

 

[Kolumbo]

UCONN ranks #23 in public universities, tied with Penn State and Rutgers. As JC said, "You're known by the company you keep. That's awfully sweet company." UCONN needs to remind others, some programs make the conference (Texas) while some programs are made by the conference (Rutgers). No question UCONN would thrive in the right situation. Always has. Always will.

UConn Marks 10th Straight Year Among Nation’s Top 25 Public Universities - UConn Today

UConn again ranks among top 25 national public universities by US News and World Report; Yale No. 5 among all US universities (outline.com)

 

[SU1968]

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

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Is that an orange pig?

 

[NoMansLand]

That pig seems to be flying.......

 

[ZooCougar]

It’s more likely that the B1G will merge with the AFC East.

Please shut this thread.

 

[CL82]

Is that an orange pig?

Could be. The nostrils seem a little stretched out.

 

[Zissou]

It’s more likely that the B1G will merge with the AFC East.

Please shut this thread.

Pats would be below Ohio State

 

[Ldandy]

I'm cool with Kansas and Uconn joining the B1G. They each have premier basketball programs and both have played FBS Football at a competitive level in the last 10-15 years. The right coach at either school could make their program at a minimum respectable. Beyond football & basketball they each have good academics and solid Olympic Sports. On the flip side The B1G does not need a parasite mid major sucking their blood and siphoning away cash that they would earn with or with out the NBE.

 

[UC1995]

Pats would be below Ohio State

Not this year, that defense is porous.

 

[Vowelguy]

Pats would be below Ohio State

Who would be last: Jets or Rutgers?