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Ass on Fire Hot Seat - Kyle Neptune - New AD at Villanova, and third straight year of Neptune face planting despite having a pretty talented team. They have to pull the plug on Neptune at year end.

Seat warming up, but he has at least one more year - Kim English - Bryce Hopkins stealing NIL money is not English's fault, but the supporting cast is pretty soft and I can't point to a game where English really wowed me as a coach. Carter's improvement last year is a promising sign that English can coach players up.

Got some time:

Ed Cooley - big contract plus turning around a train wreck will give him some goodwill, but my understanding is that Georgetown came to play with NIL money so patience is not infinite.

Sean Miller - he is probably not going anywhere. 20 years of coaching experience cuts both ways. He has made four Final 8's, which is respectable, but last one was ten seasons ago. He was busted paying players, which may explain the strong performance prior to getting caught, but now everyone can pay players. Miller had a pretty good team two years ago and go knocked out in the Sweet 16. I am guessing his phone is not ringing off the hook at 55. Xavier will give him a long leash, so he is not in danger of getting fired. I also don't think he is a top target of any major conference team with an opening.

Chris Holtmann - Depaul is historically too patient with coaches, so Holtmann could work on his golf game in SoCal for the next 3 winters before Depaul would start looking for results.

May fire themselves:

Shaka Smart - He is going to get some calls in the offseason. I expect at least 6 to 7 ACC jobs to be open by April; 2 to 3 Big 12 jobs; and about the same in the Big 10. Virginia and Miami would be the two jobs to watch. Most of the other openings kind of suck, so I don't see Smart leaving for them.

Shaheen Holloway - Next year is his last ever as a head coach if he returns to Newark. He should take an AAC or A10 job rather than stay at Seton Hall.

Thad Matta - I feel like the last two Butler teams underachieved, and he honestly just looks like hell. He has at least 1 and maybe 2 years before Butler considers firing him, but he has had health issues, doesn't look like he is enjoying it, and probably doesn't need the money. It would not be a shocker if he stepped down at year end.




Untouchable:

Danny Hurley - I think he will stay at UConn unless a great NBA job opens up (Lakers job is not great. Celtics or Knicks would be threats.)

Rick Pitino - Too old to leave and he can do what he wants at SJU

Greg McDermott - He is not leaving for some mediocre coach graveyard and none of the top jobs would want him.
 

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Danny Hurley - I think he will stay at UConn unless a great NBA job opens up (Lakers job is not great. Celtics or Knicks would be threats.)
Lakers: Trade for literal Luka Doncic
Brilliant poster: Lakers job is not great
 

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Lakers: Trade for literal Luka Doncic
Brilliant poster: Lakers job is not great
Do you think the reason(s) DH turned down the Lakers are fixed or trumped by the acquisition of one player?
 
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I actually like Holtmann as a coach and think DePaul's historical patience with coaching bodes well for him. Time will tell, but he needs to get some local talent in there to turn the ship around.

Watching a DePaul game earlier in the year the announcers said that Holtmann had changed his offensive strategy from his previous years. Clearly following in Dan Hurley's footsteps and utilizing the European style offense. Holtmann is a solid coach.
 
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Miller is not going anywhere. His last two years he presided over injured teams. They are injured again this year but firmly on the bubble with a butter soft schedule the rest of the way.
 
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I was shocked to find out Matta is only 57. Last year's Butler team was on the bubble entering a big stretch in February and then lost 5 straight games, now they're tracking towards their 2nd losing season in his 3 years and their 4 best players are all seniors, I don't think his job is all that safe.
 
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Do you think the reason(s) DH turned down the Lakers are fixed or trumped by the acquisition of one player?
The Lakers have been gifted the best players in the league since they moved to LA. Saying the Lakers job isn't a great job is beyond stupid but it's coming from Waylon so it's not at all surprising.
 

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No, I think the idea that the Lakers are a bad job is dumb
The Lakers have been gifted the best players in the league since they moved to LA. Saying the Lakers job isn't a great job is beyond stupid but it's coming from Waylon so it's not at all surprising.
I'm not going to speak for him but my guess is he's referring to the job as not being great for DH. I can understand the job being great for some, but I think there were reasons DH turned it down beyond the player staff. Not trying to go down the rabbit hole...I believe there's a whole thread on it from when Danny was considering it.
 

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I disagree on Shaheen. Seton Hall will NEVER fire him . Nor should they. They are incredibly fortunate to have him as their head coach, the guy can really coach. Seton Halls issues are entirely due to the school being an absolute disaster on the organizational front and NIL. They will never have anyone better than Shaheen and actually he should be entertaining offers from other schools. Any AD worth his salt will overlook his record there, it is not his doing.

Shaka is not going to the ACC.

Sean Miller will have Xavier job for as long as HE wants it.
 
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I disagree on Shaheen. Seton Hall will NEVER fire him . Nor should they. They are incredibly fortunate to have him as their head coach, the guy can really coach. Seton Halls issues are entirely due to the school being an absolute disaster on the organizational front and NIL. They will never have anyone better than Shaheen and actually he should be entertaining offers from other schools. Any AD worth his salt will overlook his record there, it is not his doing.

Shaka is not going to the ACC.

Sean Miller will have Xavier job for as long as HE wants it.
Seton Hall was late to the game on NIL but they have around $1.5 million to work with these days. Not great but it's also a bit exaggerated how bad it is. They have a brand new $55 million basketball practice facility opening up. They aren't exactly the sisters of the poor and there's plenty of programs who have less and are doing way better than them. Hell, Shaheen's miracle Peacocks team would've smoked this Seton Hall team and they had no money and no facilities. Shaheen needs to step it up.
 

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Thad Matta has already battled health issues and was out of coaching for a few years. He didn't have to come back but it seems to me he really has a love for it. Like everyone else, he's had to adjust to NIL and the portal, and I hope he sticks around. Butler has played competitive in the majority of their games.
 
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Neptune good as gone - will be fascinating seeing who Nova goes with as they cannot miss again, and whether an obvious choice or not.

Matta would only retire, has a surprisingly good class coming in. Gutt says one more year.

Talk of English only having one more year w/o a tourney bid, but I think he has a two year leash. Young charismatic coach given a chance to develop a bit.

Don't think you can pull Shaka out, only chance may be a B10 team with pockets/NIL (like Indiana), but not sure that can even do it. He feels like a lifer at Marquette, such a good fit. Also think his system has limited upside, so an Indiana type fanbase could grow tired not feeling like they have a chance to win the whole thing after time. At Marquette, they're fine with S16's. Really about how ambitious he is at this stage of his career.
 
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I disagree on Shaheen. Seton Hall will NEVER fire him . Nor should they. They are incredibly fortunate to have him as their head coach, the guy can really coach. Seton Halls issues are entirely due to the school being an absolute disaster on the organizational front and NIL. They will never have anyone better than Shaheen and actually he should be entertaining offers from other schools. Any AD worth his salt will overlook his record there, it is not his doing.

Shaka is not going to the ACC.

Sean Miller will have Xavier job for as long as HE wants it.
The OP said Shaheen should fire himself (ie leave), not the other way around.
 

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Lakers: Trade for literal Luka Doncic
Brilliant poster: Lakers job is not great

Alternatively, brilliant poster (you) thinks you know which job Danny Hurley would take better than Danny Hurley, who turned down the job less than a year ago.

Inyatkin's post is everything wrong with the Boneyard. Poster is so eager to take a cheap shot at someone else that he posts something that stupid.
 

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Alternatively, brilliant poster (you) thinks you know which job Danny Hurley would take better than Danny Hurley, who turned down the job less than a year ago.

Inyatkin's post is everything wrong with the Boneyard. Poster is so eager to take a cheap shot at someone else that he posts something that stupid.
Everything wrong with the Boneyard! Truly, I have arrived.
 
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Everything wrong with the Boneyard! Truly, I have arrived.
Waylon is of course now saying something totally different than what he originally said and he's of course attacking you for commenting on what he originally said.
 

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I disagree on Shaheen. Seton Hall will NEVER fire him . Nor should they. They are incredibly fortunate to have him as their head coach, the guy can really coach. Seton Halls issues are entirely due to the school being an absolute disaster on the organizational front and NIL. They will never have anyone better than Shaheen and actually he should be entertaining offers from other schools. Any AD worth his salt will overlook his record there, it is not his doing.

Shaka is not going to the ACC.

Sean Miller will have Xavier job for as long as HE wants it.

I agree on Holloway, which is why I think he is gone. I think he would even step down to the A10 or AAC to leave. Seton Hall is a lost cause.
 

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Miller is not going anywhere. His last two years he presided over injured teams. They are injured again this year but firmly on the bubble with a butter soft schedule the rest of the way.
Never count out Pitt pursuing Miller, given Capel has fewer and fewer supporters and a new AD. Miller remains revered here.
 

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