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Message: [QUOTE="6Nattys4Us, post: 5174304, member: 13819"] There's also the bid stealers (upsets in conference tourneys) so every year only a certain amount of at large teams..though I disagree with the entire premise: If Gonzaga (not trying to pick on them, but as an example) is like 18-0 and heads into their conf tourney and gets upset by San Francisco who gets the auto-bid, the conference suddendly has 2 teams: San Fran and Gonzaga. So that is -1 to the at large pool b/c all along Lunardi et al would have 1 team: Gonzaga assuming they win out. So we get these from time to time, some years more than others. Thus the Big East will be 4-5 teams in the dance depending a more on the bid stealers than which teams in the Big East finish 1-5, because if the 5th best team wins the tourney they dance and #4 might drop out. [/QUOTE]