Big 12 to meet with 17 teams and pick 2

[Uconn93]

Report: Big 12 talking expansion with 17 schools

We know 14 of the 17 expansion candidates the Big 12 will meet with. Let's guess the others!

All meetings by video conference and they still may not take any new teams.

 

[nd73]

IMO they are doing all this to extract more money out of Fox and ESPN and will stay at 10. This is way to public and seems like a negotiation ploy.

 

[sportsart]

Lord kill me now? Did you not see the other 312 threads you could have posted this to. Being that it has already been posted...screw it. Whatever.....

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

IMO they are doing all this to extract more money out of Fox and ESPN and will stay at 10. This is way to public and seems like a negotiation ploy.

BINGO, we have a winner!

 

[ASweet3781]

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN 43s44 seconds ago
Why all the presentations? Told Big 12 feels if school expressed interest, deserves chance to make a case. Could help schools on bubble.

There is not a school in the 17 that could give the presentation we could (if done correctly). I'd feel better if Dooley was doing ours.

 

[don356]

This smells of a public vetting to cover their butts. We gave everyone a chance, et. al.

 

[CL82]

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN 43s44 seconds ago
Why all the presentations? Told Big 12 feels if school expressed interest, deserves chance to make a case. Could help schools on bubble.

There is not a school in the 17 that could give the presentation we could (if done correctly). I'd feel better if Dooley was doing ours.

Dooley/Matt combo presentation would be my optimal pitch. Throw in some demographics, some history of success, academics, etc and interspace some videos 1) UConn the view from above, 2) Video of UConn football greatest moments, (we all could list the games, (ND, SC, maybe the WVU win, etc,) 3) videos of the tailgating at the Rent; 4) UConn Michgan State at MSG - UConn cheer 5) National Championship trophies.

We could generate one with material from the Boneyard that would kill any other candidate.

 

[don356]

It's already been reported that they've met with a number of schools. If this was true, why would you have this video conference deal? Makes about as much sense as a Rutgers a.d search.

 

[Tenspro2002]

This looks like posturing. Either they know the two they want to take, or they're bluffing and don't want to take anybody.

Either way, not a great position for us. Based on nothing in particular, I feel like we have about a 10% chance of getting in -- a 50% chance they don't expand, and a 50% chance they expand by 2 in which there's a 20% chance they pick us. My wild guess at this point.

 

[Uconn93]

Lord kill me now? Did you not see the other 312 threads you could have posted this to. Being that it has already been posted...screw it. Whatever.....

Sorry, I didn't see another thread with a similar title and there are two many damn 55 page threads for me to try and sort it all out. When I posted it, the linked articles were all less than an hour old.

 

[Uconn93]

This smells of a public vetting to cover their butts. We gave everyone a chance, et. al.

I had the same thought

 

[HuskyHawk]

This looks like posturing. Either they know the two they want to take, or they're bluffing and don't want to take anybody.

Either way, not a great position for us. Based on nothing in particular, I feel like we have about a 10% chance of getting in -- a 50% chance they don't expand, and a 50% chance they expand by 2 in which there's a 20% chance they pick us. My wild guess at this point.

If you read Chuck Carlton's piece it is pretty clear that not expanding is all but off the table. They are going to at least 12. This is nothing more than a CYA move. It's like the rule in the NFL where you have to interview a minority coaching candidate, even if you know who you want. A bunch of schools expressed interest. They get to do a presentation. The Big12 isn't visiting all of them, and isn't actually considering all of them, but is doing this as a courtesy. Remember, these are university presidents...they are very much all in the same club.

 

[Uconn93]

Dooley/Matt combo presentation would be my optimal pitch. Throw in some demographics, some history of success, academics, etc and interspace some videos 1) UConn the view from above, 2) Video of UConn football greatest moments, (we all could list the games, (ND, SC, maybe the WVU win, etc,) 3) videos of the tailgating at the Rent; 4) UConn Michgan State at MSG - UConn cheer 5) National Championship trophies.

We could generate one with material from the Boneyard that would kill any other candidate.

Need to address/minimize distance between schools

 

[WestHartHusk]

You almost have to wonder if ESPN (who it is now clear is very anti-expansion because they have a steal on the AAC) is, behind the scenes, pondering, or has threatened, a tortious interference claim against the B12 and this is the B12 creating further evidence that schools have come to them.

On an unrelated topic, I feel like Houston's presentation has one bullet noting that they almost sold out a game last year, and a big clip-art picture of the UT logo.

 

[CL82]

Alternative view. Perhaps after looking at metrics the logical choice isn't the most popular? Could this be cover for blowing off Houston or Cinci?

 

[CL82]

Need to address/minimize distance between schools

Yep, especially time to the Rent after wheels down which is what 15 minutes?

What you rather do spend 30 minutes longer in the air, or hour longer in a bus?

 

[Uconn93]

You almost have to wonder if ESPN (who it is now clear is very anti-expansion because they have a steal on the AAC) is, behind the scenes, pondering, or has threatened, a tortious interference claim against the B12 and this is the B12 creating further evidence that schools have come to them.

On an unrelated topic, I feel like Houston's presentation has one bullet noting that they almost sold out a game last year, and a big clip-art picture of the UT logo.

Having the governor of Texas threaten to throw a very big and very public temper tantrum if you're not picked probably doesn't hurt either

 

[HuskyHawk]

Alternative view. Perhaps after looking at metrics the logical choice isn't the most popular? Could this be cover for blowing off Houston or Cinci?

Well they need to do that if they take us...the fans won't understand it at all. But I suspect this gives them cover when they are drinking cocktails at some big function with the Presidents of CSU, Temple, ECU etc.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Having the governor of Texas threaten to throw a very big and very public temper tantrum if you're not picked probably doesn't hurt either

We don't have any way to know if that's true, or just CYA. I'm inclined to believe he carried the water by having his intern tweet for him and doesn't really care.

 

[mavblues]

1) Already visited the campuses of the top choices.

2) Video conference for EVERYONE (including your top choices) to CYA and not disrespect any of the schools involved.

They apparently visited UConn, so we're one of the finalists. Doesn't mean anything more than that.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN 43s44 seconds ago
Why all the presentations? Told Big 12 feels if school expressed interest, deserves chance to make a case. Could help schools on bubble.

There is not a school in the 17 that could give the presentation we could (if done correctly). I'd feel better if Dooley was doing ours.

As was said in other places, it takes some burden/guilt away from B12 if teams willingly come to them.

 

[Point6]

Sorry, I didn't see another thread with a similar title and there are two many damn 55 page threads for me to try and sort it all out. When I posted it, the linked articles were all less than an hour old.

Also, dude, don't leave any old threads on the counter. Clean up after yourself and put any dishes you use in the dishwasher. Also, if someone has already opened a milk, please don't open another one. Lets work together guys!

 

[amory]

I had the same thought

why would they have to vet everyone to be fair? It's their conference, they can take anyone they want based on any criteria.

This is a dog and pony show for the networks, and not a very good one either. No one's going to believe you're seriously considering Temple or New Mexico, whether they get an interview or not

this whole process has been very strange.

 

[billybud]

Smart ploy to have an open casting call...makes it more difficult to claim tortious intereference when they come to you.

 

[sportsart]

Sorry, I didn't see another thread with a similar title and there are two many damn 55 page threads for me to try and sort it all out. When I posted it, the linked articles were all less than an hour old.

The best way to go about reading this board if you are new is click on the most recent page of the thread and work back 5-6 pages. That will give you the most relevant info and you'll be up to speed pretty quick.