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Message: [QUOTE="ClifSpliffy, post: 3813623, member: 9260"] [I]'Very little difference among the brands - most frames in the lower and middle range all source from a handful of factories and the components are common to all brands.[/I]' preach! and much of this is, apparently, because of mr. cohen. i got my first nishiki, long ago, when living in sf. the appearance of quality and the ridiculous difference in price was why. since then, pretty much only them. this thread made me look closer, and what do i find? many of the brands bandied aboot here are somehow connected to him. on the udder hand, i have no clue about the current mfr, and the dicks sporting goods connection. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishiki_(bicycle_company)#Derby']Nishiki (bicycle company) - Wikipedia[/URL] thank you, mr cohen. signed, 'get away from me with ur lurpy bike fashionwear and ur tpms sensitive to .25 lb, while ur ripping dirt at hammy beach. flat, off road, hammy beach.' [/QUOTE]