Better Next Year? Really?

[hoophuskee]

Indeed, Chiney was extraordinarily consistent in a good way, outside of every time she had to go up against UConn. The 8-24 regular season performance against Texas her senior year, that 1-9 against UCLA in a PACCT win her junior year, and a 2-7 against Texas A&M in the FF her freshman year were her only real off games for shooting outside of Husky games. That is stunning.

Sure but we can't ignore for example what she did in her senior year in S16 and E8, can we?

 

[DobbsRover2]

Sure but we can't ignore for example what she did in her senior year in S16 and E8, can we?

Huh? Not sure what you mean. As mentioned Chiney's off games were few and far between and she had almost stunning consistency during her career. The S16 and E8 games of her senior year were more of the same great effort with a combined 49 points and 25 rebounds. Why would anyone ignore them? They just show more of a great player who UConn definitely focused on to shut down as far as possible in their games.

 

[Buzzyboy]

I know this is a UCONN board, so a little tunnel vision might be expected, but "[Chiney Ogwumike's] field goal percentage against decent competition was horrific" is just plain wrong. Against UCONN, career, she was 31.8%. Against all other ranked competition, including PAC-12 and NCAA tournaments, she was 56%. That's pretty darn good against the best teams in the country. Bad numbers against UCONN happens to everyone. In fact, the only major non-UCONN game I can recall her having a bad shooting night ever was the 2013 PAC-12 championship game against UCLA.

Let me just say that I wasn't taking into account all the chippees she got due to offensive rebounds with her quickness when her opponents were out of position. It didn't happen nearly often enough against UConn to build her percentages up but I rarely ever saw her hit an outside shot with any regularity. I stand by that. I saw her against other opponents where she missed a number of shots from the perimeter and then two or three offensive rebound layups to buoy her percentages. I didn't see her game after game and I doubt anyone on this site did but I felt her quickness and athleticism compensated greatly for pretty poor shooting. I guess I didn't take into account how the high percentage of layups upped her shooting percentages.

 

[nd2tty]

Let me just say that I wasn't taking into account all the chippees she got due to offensive rebounds with her quickness when her opponents were out of position. It didn't happen nearly often enough against UConn to build her percentages up but I rarely ever saw her hit an outside shot with any regularity. I stand by that. I saw her against other opponents where she missed a number of shots from the perimeter and then two or three offensive rebound layups to buoy her percentages. I didn't see her game after game and I doubt anyone on this site did but I felt her quickness and athleticism compensated greatly for pretty poor shooting. I guess I didn't take into account how the high percentage of layups upped her shooting percentages.

Really have no idea what to do with this.

It's almost like you are saying that she was a combination of quick and lucky, which resulted in her getting a lot of freebies "when her opponents were out of position." IMO that does a pretty large disservice to a pretty good player. She was not asked to take outside shots at Stanford because they had a surplus of outside shooters: she only took 19 3s in her entire career. Was she as versatile as Tuck? No, I guess not, but Tuck has no mid-range jump shot, so she's not the most versatile either: with Tuck, it's either 3 pt shot, drive to layup, or post moves. If Gabby Williams goes through her career playing the way she did freshman year, only with more minutes - averages 17 pts/game on 65% shooting entire on layups and offensive rebounds - some might criticize her one-dimensionality, but I don't think too many would complain about her production and contribution to UCONN.

Agree to disagree, I guess.