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Message: [QUOTE="seeya27, post: 4732297, member: 2365"] So I will be a man about this... and acknowledge I screwed up. You are right, this discussion was about active coaches. I co-mingled this discussion and one I was having online with KU fans about Self being the GOAT. I wasted your time discussing "greatest ever" rationales. My bad. FTR, I don't "hate" Self. I don't hate any coach either. Truth be hold though, I don't entirely like him because I inherently believe the FBI had his balls to the wall, and he and the school should have been punished. Similarly but different to the UNC academic scandal. When I compare those two scandals to the penalties UConn faced (especially the retroactively applied GPA violations) it fries my brain. But that said, Self would be the best active coach today. He would not be the guy I would want in one game (I know, not the question asked); with the same talent, I would choose Kelvin. And on the GOAT list, he is further down the list for the moment, IMO. [/QUOTE]