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Message: [QUOTE="superjohn, post: 4732241, member: 1522"] I think we would've beaten them but I'm happy we didn't have to face them in the tournament last season. Self got screwed out of a #1 seed run last season because of his health and they were the team to beat in the Covid cancelled tournament year as well. No matter what anyone thinks of him his consistent excellence is unmatched. Also so many of his 5 star recruits never panned out for him at Kansas for whatever reasons. Cliff Alexander, Cheick Diallo, Carlton Bragg, Brannen Greene, Josh Selby, Quentin Grimes all come to mind. Often times it's the 3 star players who turn out to be his stars and leaders. Even Joel Embiid only averaged 11 points per game as a freshman before getting injured and missing the Big 12 tournament and NCAA's. [/QUOTE]