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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 5192489, member: 1414"] German beers didn't hold up at all for a long, long time. But it was light stroke. It was the green glass. Several brewers considered pulling out of the U.S. until they figured it out. Now you see cans and the bottles are either brown or in cardboard that blocks light (or both). Heineken is Dutch but it was funny when they shipped fresh beers here finally and fans were like "what is this"? Where's that skunked flavor and smell I like? U.S. Heineken now vs 15 years ago is not even the same beer. Oddly, Rolling Rock has a similar skunked profile, guess why? That said, unpasteurized modern hoppy IPAs simply can't tolerate much shipping or unrefrigerated time period. Even in cans, which are best. Who knows what environment they are in? [/QUOTE]