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Message: [QUOTE="87Xfer, post: 5100306, member: 10566"] I love hops way more than the next guy, but has anyone enjoyed a pilsner or kolsch lately? Something that's difficult to brew well without hiding behind 5+% alcohol, pb&j (or donuts or duck fat, lemongrass or whatever), and a [U]lot[/U] of hops? I loved the original Dogfish Worldwide stout. But beer doesn't have to stop you in your tracks and attack your taste buds to be great. And "New England" style IPAs didn't exist for the 40 years that I lived in New England. I assume that the lazy/hazy IPAs are largely a response to Heady Topper? The Alchemist tapproom (RIP) was one of a kind, as was their beer. In general, the majority of the current "hazy" IPAs that have flooded the market suck IMHO. So there"s that! ;) [/QUOTE]