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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 4774028, member: 3391"] I feel like everybody is making rauch this fall which is disappointing because my local hang out is dropping theirs and they love doing german beer and have been wanting to make one for quite awhile. That being said they did a good job with this one. I have been pushing Czech dark lager as well and I fear that's the next trend that's coming along because of Schilling's Karluv 13. I say that because I'd rather have my friend push out beers that aren't part of a trend but i'm really feeling that's going to be the 'everybody has one now' of 2024. Of course I've been on him to produce one of their base stouts which people really like. The tribulations of hanging out at a nanobrewery run by hobbyists. [/QUOTE]