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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 4752041, member: 3391"] Church was 10 years ago at the Frozen Four. Suarez Family Brewing is in Hudson, NY and is supposed to be highly regarded but also out of the way to the spawning grounds. edit: I'm not against Pittsburgh, but it isn't even they don't have somebody elite like treehouse. I just did Raleigh-Durham in July and nobody OMG is there either. Red is places I have gone. Blue is ideas. edit #2: Helltown was a one-off stop when I did a Ohio swing. Moron driving while using phone looking for a one-off. I keep wanting to do a larger road trip but something keeps getting in the way. So yeah I did Jackie O's to C'bus for the night, up through Hoppin' Frog and into Cleveland then back to DC. [/QUOTE]