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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 4727986, member: 3391"] with breweries its always a mix of things. Could be they daydreamed too hard, could be they were getting squeezed for rent, could be they couldn't keep up on the loans taken out for their equipment. Could be that the principles are getting older. You can never be too sure. Lately I've been full time hanging out at a two barrel operation with really good people and I know two regulars there who also want to open breweries (1 year time frame and 4-5 year time frame) and I've been listening more about their thought processes. I think the world has shifted to a "neighborhood" model but in that you will also have to expect places to come and go. Which is far different when you expected most breweries to carry a legacy. Even ones that do otherwise "fine" will run into this or that. What I am getting right now is that there's tradeoffs. Those who work a normal job will take a loan out on the bigger equipment and have that as the collateral. Don't lose the literal house. But still one guy I talk to if you get an industrial area you're going to get a certain price for square foot but if its anything mildly trafficked its a much higher price. --- As for my little project, its been on my mind for 6 years and we (coworker helping me) tried to make it work once before covid only for me to remember that resistors are a thing... oops. [/QUOTE]