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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 2598329, member: 1414"] I have a friend in San Diego who brought me stuff for years. Almost all of it disappointing (I liked the Alesmith Tony Gwinn Pale Ale). The thing you are missing is that the San Diego scene, with regard to IPAs, is built around a style that is very bitter. So the vast majority of what you get is based on that. Not everything and I know NE Style has made inroads. And yes, there are bitter, "west coast" style IPAs made here too. But I've had the core range of beers from the breweries you listed, and I don't care for them. I drain poured Modern Times Blazing World. Alpine I had once before Green Flash bought them...it was ok. Since GF bought them...drain pour. Note: I think GF is truly awful. Meanwhile, I love the core beers from Treehouse, Trillium, HF, Foam, Foley Bros, Beer'd, Frost etc. That's the difference. Any good brewer can make a decent beer in a one off batch. How are the highest volume beers? [/QUOTE]