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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 2366173, member: 1414"] I guess I'm not seeing that. Not all all really. Hill Farmstead does no adverting, and sells only on premise except a handful of draft accounts. And they are picky about those. They had a big expansion. Alchemist had a big expansion and is still selling all they make on premise. Trillium has now had three expansions, charges a ton for the beer, and when I went there Saturday there must have been 150 people there at 2:30 in the afternoon. I watch people, often older people (like me) walk out of there with $1000 in beer. Their next plan is to buy a farm in Connecticut, grow hops and maybe barley, and open yet another brewery. Treehouse just built a new massive brewery and still has huge lines. Small places like Foley Brothers...which is down a dirt road, and had a hand written sharpie on cardboard sign when I first saw it, is doing well. Foam in Burlington is killing it. I go to all of them, and it isn't just hipsters or millennials. I'm 51 now, and I see people my age and older all the time, or families with kids. Meanwhile, most of the small places are not getting that kind of activity. Look at RI, where a bunch opened up. One of them is the clear winner and now has Treehouse like lines, Tilted Barn. The reason? The beer is just that much better. I agree you need a business plan and some savvy, especially if the beer is merely "good". Hooker in CT, yes, it needs that. So do all the mediocre start ups (some of which are not even "good"). They won't all make it, and there is almost no room to get into the distro side of the business now. [/QUOTE]

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