Bazz -"When you banned us" speech legend growing

[Chief00]

Most moments diminish in time - yet Bazz's speech seems to be growing. A top national recruit dad is talking about the "Hungry Huskies" down in Jersey and coupled with the Northwestern case a narrative is building that the NCAA does not act in the player's interest. National newspapers and TV shows have also picked up the debate.

The NCAA and its partners will not like Bazz's speech; it threatens the status quo and their money machine.

While nationally the complex timeline of retroactively imposed rules and double jeopardy will not be completely understood in regards to the banning. The sense that innocent kids were punished for something they had nothing to do with - is understood by many.

While admittedly Jim Nance was put in a difficult position given CBS's billion dollar relationship with the NCAA when Shabazz shocked the World - I bet one former Coach is smiling - as Mark Emmert squirmed off the stage.

 

[aburks41]

#BigBallsBazz

 

[Leebo]

Not everyone understands that Shabazz and the rest of this team didn't have anything to do with it. I've heard national media figures imply that their grades were directly the cause. I know it's idiotic, but what can you do.

 

[Chief00]

I think the speech makes it clear to the guys we recruit that UConn has their back.

 

[EricLA]

I think the speech makes it clear to the guys we recruit that UConn has their back.

It's unfortunate that anyone has to have their back for that situation as most of the knowledgeable people seem to acknowledge it was a sham. But 2 NC's in 4 years, under 2 different coaches, 1 year after a NCAA ban where UCONN had a bit of trouble recruiting (for a lot of reasons) and several kids defected - it just has to speak volumes about where the program is headed with the amazing guy we have in charge.

I realize each NC is special for their own reasons, but this most recent one is special in ways no other NC was or will be. Still so amazed and proud of our guys and our coaches. Side note - it's amazing to me that all the coaches on the staff have UCONN ties. Sure they worked at other schools, but it's not like Ollie went out and got guys from all over the country who were top recruiters, or elite guard/post coaches at other programs.

 

[Chief00]

Bazz's speech legend keeps growing as Warde called him to repeat famous lines.

 

[Hoophound]

Bazz's speech legend keeps growing as Warde called him to repeat famous lines.

Really? Where did you hear that? I figured Sue and Warde weren't thrilled.

 

[BleedHuskyBlu]

Really? Where did you hear that? I figured Sue and Warde weren't thrilled.

During the parade warde called up Bazz to tell the crowd what he was telling him earlier. Bazz went up and said we are the hungry huskies and this is what happens when you ban us. I would assume Warde Manuel has the same feelings towards the ncaa as we do

 

[tdrink]

Not everyone understands that Shabazz and the rest of this team didn't have anything to do with it. I've heard national media figures imply that their grades were directly the cause. I know it's idiotic, but what can you do.

One thing people can do is keep the narrative simple. As Chief said, the focus should be that the kids who were punished were not responsible in any way.

We know that APR is not an effective measure of whether kids are students as well as athletes, that it was implemented ex post facto and that the head of the ncaa has an axe to grind. But if UConn tries to make those arguments it comes off as sour grapes.

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[RoderickSpode]

Bilas is a sane, measured voice in a world of sound-byte-factory/shock-jock types.

 

[ASweet3781]

When Shabazz went back to his seat, Susan was laughing up a storm. I like her.

 

[Tenspro2002]

One thing people can do is keep the narrative simple. As Chief said, the focus should be that the kids who were punished were not responsible in any way.

We know that APR is not an effective measure of whether kids are students as well as athletes, that it was implemented ex post facto and that the head of the ncaa has an axe to grind. But if UConn tries to make those arguments it comes off as sour grapes.

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

 

[Kembacity]

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

Well yeah, the scholarship docking should have been enough, was us winning in 2011 a contributing factor??

 

[tdrink]

Well yeah, the scholarship docking should have been enough, was us winning in 2011 a contributing factor??

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

We live in an instant information society. For a team to suffer a ban for grades from 3 years prior is something that most people cant fathom. thats why the uninformed response is that if they dont want to be banned they shouldnt get bad grades.

I absolutely believe that winning it all in 2011 while under penalty was a huge factor in the ban. The ncaa must have felt that it wasnt enough of a punishment. They upped the ante. Thats why Bazz,s statement is so huge. Uconn upped the ante on them. We'll see if they have a hand to play or they fold.

 

[Ha Who]

During the parade warde called up Bazz to tell the crowd what he was telling him earlier. Bazz went up and said we are the hungry huskies and this is what happens when you ban us. I would assume Warde Manuel has the same feelings towards the ncaa as we do

Wish he had a line for Blumenthal

 

[Adios]

I found a card at the parade that appears to be promoting a new "championship anthem", "Hungry Huskies". The logo on it has red eyes. The logo looks fierce with red eyes.

 

[Waquoit]

FWIW, it was the parting shot on the Sports Reporters today.

 

[upstater]

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

Bilas gave a pretty good critique of the APR. It's anti-educational. So, it's not only the ex-post facto nature of the ban, but the metric itself that stinks to high heaven.

 

[intlzncster]

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

There's the retroactive part, but also the double jeopardy. How many times should you get punished for the same thing?

 

[Tenspro2002]

There's the retroactive part, but also the double jeopardy. How many times should you get punished for the same thing?

That's a good point as well.

Either way, we shouldn't dilute our message by whining about the fact that current players are punished for past misdeeds. That's a fact of life in college sports.

 

[Gurleyman]

That's a good point as well.

Either way, we shouldn't dilute our message by whining about the fact that current players are punished for past misdeeds. That's a fact of life in college sports.

For recruiting violations and things, sure. There's no other way to do it, because the violations are usually discovered after the fact, sometimes a couple years later, and then the investigation takes time. The NCAA had data in front of their nose about what the current team was doing academically and chose to deem it irrelevant. And the rule was new, so there was no historical precedence.

 

[aceboon]

FWIW, it was the parting shot on the Sports Reporters today.

what did they say about it?

 

[CAHUSKY]

what did they say about it?

John Saunders was talking about Shabazz' comments a couple of months ago about going to bed hungry because scholarship $$$ didn't cover total cost of living. He may have started his comment saying something about Shabazz' comments to nance but, if so, it was only a brief sentence leading to his larger point regarding players getting a larger slice of the financial pie.

 

[CL82]

Actually, I disagree. The fact that these kids were punished for the (apparent) transgressions of the previous generation is unfortunate, but it's how life works in college sports when kids move on after 4 years.

The only complaint we should be leveling is in regard to the ex post facto nature of our punishment, which is universally unfair (unconstitutional, moreover) and worthy of sympathy.

Not so sure that this is a Constitutional issue, but if you are going to call out the "ex post facto nature" you might as well throw in the double jeopardy aspects of it as well. In that we were punished twice for the 2008 year.